So Air causes Cancer... that you believe?

[Natasha Tori Maru]

@Carl-Richard

[Carl-Richard]

@Natasha Tori Maru By the way, I meant to say "I never eat tuna" earlier, not "never eat tuna!". If you can eat tuna and be fine (whether you feel fine or you don't care about contamination estimates or you do whatever seems reasonable), it's all good. Whatever floats your fishing boat.

Edited 12 hours ago by Carl-Richard

[UnbornTao]

On 17/4/2026 at 2:55 PM, integral said:

Oh for sure I could have High mercury levels screwing up my system making me sensitive to air.

Finding the root causes is very hard to do and nebulous.

I'm not sure what you think the alternative is, there's no science out there to help you there's no doctors that are going to accurately diagnose you, its hell.

But in this case I established this air pattern in a widespread way testing even healthy people. And of course the science backs all this up, not that I need it... Because I'm doing science...

@UnbornTao do you believe a house filled with perfume has no impact on your consciousness, energy levels, creativity, various biological processes like hormones?

Sorry, edited comments aren't notified.

Hm, consciousness? I'm inclined to say no - you're likely referring to something else, like cognition.

I don't necessarily disagree with you; what I take issue with is what comes across as excessive worry. I'm sure lots of artificial chemicals have a detrimental effect on the body, whether minor or significant.

You need to strike a balance between trusting professionals and going out of your way to self-diagnose any symptoms you may be experiencing. The potential for misdiagnosis is much higher with the latter - and the bigger problem is that you won't know it was a misdiagnosis.

Edited 8 hours ago by UnbornTao

[UnbornTao]

@integral Oh no

https://scitechdaily.com/century-old-cleaning-chemical-linked-to-500-increased-risk-of-parkinsons-disease/

[Leo Gura]

@UnbornTao Don't make his paranoia worse.

Worrying about all these chemicals is enough to give you cancer. 

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[integral]

3 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

Don't make his paranoia worse.

lmao to be clear i dont experience fear or any emotion, its a state change from inhaling it.

Like state change of smoking pot, thats about it. 

Edited 6 hours ago by integral

[integral]

3 hours ago, UnbornTao said:

@integral Oh no

https://scitechdaily.com/century-old-cleaning-chemical-linked-to-500-increased-risk-of-parkinsons-disease/

LMFAO its hard for people to understand but i dont care about long term health problems, im talking about immediate within 10 seconds effect on state on inhale. 

Edited 6 hours ago by integral

[integral]

12 hours ago, Carl-Richard said:

I never eat tuna. I think I ate it on a cruise ship once by accident 8 years ago thinking it was chicken or beef ragú or something. But I was not in the mental claritymaxxing game by then and was chugging soda from the soda dispenser every waking moment of the day (so much so I got bored with soda and craved normal water).

It's not so much mercury in itself I'm pointing at. Mercury is just one of many things that tend to be elevated higher up in the food chain (and cod seems to be higher up than salmon). Mercury is like the placeholder of environmental toxins that accumulate up the food chain.

Hold on there was a misunderstanding.

I was pointing out that you had a hypothesis that the mercury in the cod was making you sick. And to narrow down, you ate utter fish that didn't give you any problems. And then concluded the mercury in the cod was the problem.

This was a incomplete narrowing, and it's easy to tell because tuna has even more mercury than cod, if you eat tuna, you'll likely will have no side effects. So this will cancel out your hypothesis that the mercury was causing the stomach upset.

So i pointed to that Cod has the highest Parvalbuminto over every other fish, and so all you have to do is eat fish high in this substance and then compared it to eating fish low in this substance to determine if this substance is what's causing your health problem. 

To narrow down to the right mechanism.

 

Edited 6 hours ago by integral

[UnbornTao]

25 minutes ago, integral said:

LMFAO its hard for people to understand but i dont care about long term health problems, im talking about immediate within 10 seconds effect on state on inhale. 

Long-term is the real game.

[integral]

17 minutes ago, UnbornTao said:

Long-term is the real game.

My god, its shocking how hard it is to explain air to people lmfao. 

[koops]

https://www.instagram.com/basedethos/reel/DW2lLJAE3zV

 

Edited 5 hours ago by koops

[Carl-Richard]

1 hour ago, integral said:

if you eat tuna, you'll likely will have no side effects.

Lol. Why do you just assume that?

 

1 hour ago, integral said:

So this will cancel out your hypothesis that the mercury was causing the stomach upset.

It was not stomach upset. It was extreme tiredness.

 

1 hour ago, integral said:

So i pointed to that Cod has the highest Parvalbuminto over every other fish, and so all you have to do is eat fish high in this substance and then compared it to eating fish low in this substance to determine if this substance is what's causing your health problem. 

To narrow down to the right mechanism.

Yeah I'm not saying I've without a doubt concluded what the most important mechanism is. Environmental toxins is just a likely contender. And it could be multiple mechanisms at the same time that contribute essentially equally.

Edited 4 hours ago by Carl-Richard

[UnbornTao]

49 minutes ago, integral said:

My god, its shocking how hard it is to explain air to people lmfao. 

I wasn't referring to that, but it's fine by me.

[PsychedelicEagle]

18 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

What? Food has oils in it.

Soap is not toxic and washes off with water.

Correct, but not the point of requiring soap to wash the fatty acids that whole food has. Unless you are heavily processing nuts or seeds that you extract a lot of oil from it (e.g., tahini, which I sometimes do, but rarely). 

As for soap, generally not toxic indeed, but it depends on what they mixed it with (type of surfactants, rinse aids, God knows what else).

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Conclusions: The expression of genes involved in cell survival, epithelial barrier, cytokine signaling, and metabolism was altered by rinse aid in concentrations used in professional dishwashers. The alcohol ethoxylates present in the rinse aid were identified as the culprit component causing the epithelial inflammation and barrier damage.

My philosophy is: if you can avoid it, why not? I kill two birds with one shot: lower LDL cholesterol (by eating less fat), and no detergents. The environment also thanks.

17 hours ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

But you don't add healthy oils to food? You don't add oils at all?!?! 

EVOO is the only oil I use (I aim for total polyphenol content >= ~400 mg/kg). Max 1 tbsp (13.5g) per day, on top of already cooked food. I never use oil in the cooking process, only adding it later to the meals. All other fat I ingest comes mostly from whole nuts and seeds (currently total fat/day = ~25% of total caloric intake, 88g/day).

Here's a breakdown of the average daily intake of the last 6 months.

Edited 4 hours ago by PsychedelicEagle

[integral]

1 hour ago, Carl-Richard said:

Lol. Why do you just assume that?

lol i was throwing stuff out there, the reason is you said salmon was fine and salmon is high in mercury. So ya know tuna aint that far off. 

[Natasha Tori Maru]

@PsychedelicEagle so your dishes get oily 

Edited 31 minutes ago by Natasha Tori Maru

[Carl-Richard]

3 hours ago, integral said:

lol i was throwing stuff out there, the reason is you said salmon was fine and salmon is high in mercury. So ya know tuna aint that far off. 

Cod is 5x more, tuna is like 6-35x more.

 

Edited 1 minute ago by Carl-Richard

[NewKidOnTheBlock]

You're fairly on point with most of these tbh. I always wondered though whether scepticism about shampoos ia warranted or not. Shouldn't be, but who knows. Soap should probably be alright, but it is a very inneficient and tedious way to wash oneself. Unless you're using a liquid soap in which case, what's the difference?