So Air causes Cancer... that you believe?

[integral]

18 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

@integral I use RoundUp for mouthwash

Using any mouthwash was the first sin of admittance. You'll breath tooth paste saliva all day! Its toxic!  

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[integral]

4 hours ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

Can you show some studies in mechanism of action?

My citations is the experience of sitting in a room after lighting a incent. Then repeating it 100x over years with different variables and insights, to try to defeat the hypothesis. 

Experience is citable in my version of science. AKA: real science.  

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[Carl-Richard]

4 minutes ago, integral said:

My citations is the experience of sitting in a room after lighting a incent. Then repeating it 100x over years with different variables and insights, to try to defeat the hypothesis. 

Experience is citable in my version of science. AKA: real science.  

But it helps citing a mechanism of action (like I did with the fish), because then you have one less reason that you might be simply imagining it or having some psychosomatic reaction (and not much else).

[Natasha Tori Maru]

2 minutes ago, Carl-Richard said:

But it helps citing a mechanism of action (like I did with the fish), because then you have one less reason that you might be simply imagining it or having some psychosomatic reaction (and not much else).

Placebo and nocebo 🎯

[integral]

42 minutes ago, Carl-Richard said:

because then you have one less reason that you might be simply imagining it or having some psychosomatic reaction (and not much else).

Why do you believe eating the Cod was caused by Mercury instead of nocebo?

[integral]

So for one if a person has insufficient body awareness, like lacking full body awareness, they won't notice much.

My feet feel different depending on what air I'm breathing, the level of vascular constriction and blood flow in my feet changes depending on what air I'm breathing. And how conscious I'm capable of being of my feet changes depending on the air I'm breathing. Depending on the air I am more conscious of my feet, depending on my air I could be less conscious in my feet. Level of Consciousness changes depending on what you're breathing. 

The vast majority of people can notice that if they eat a gigantic meal it will affect their state of consciousness. Okay why can't anyone understand that if you sit in a room filled with cigarette smokes this affects your state of consciousness. And then just take that to the next level that your indoor air is four times worse than your outdoor air and that your indoor is not clean air and that all of those chemicals in your air are affecting your state of consciousness.

Everything is affecting your state of consciousness. The idea that air is not doing anything is absurd.

Many times I don't even smell anything but I could tell what's in the air based on physiological changes. Unscented is not clean air it's just your nose has adapted, and you can't smell it.

And it doesn't need to be noticing change  it could be you just notice what you are. 

I know all the states I can be in.  every state that Ive ever been in at any moment is memorized and deeply internalized.

At any moment I observe myself and know what state I'm in. And I can reverse engineer how I reached this state.

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[Carl-Richard]

1 hour ago, integral said:

Why do you believe eating the Cod was caused by Mercury instead of nocebo?

Because I thought salmon and cod were equal in their contamination prior to that, and I had been seemingly fine eating salmon. I expected to be fine but I was not. I found out about the difference in mercury levels after the fact.

I had a similar thing happen when I tried a zinc supplement for the first time. I thought since because it increases testosterone, it would make me more hyped at the gym (I took it at the gym), but instead it made me more calm and relaxed. I was actually extremely surprised by this, and then I believe I looked it up at the gym and was like "ah, it has like 200 functions in the body, maybe that's why".

If something goes against your expectations, then it's much less likely to be placebo/nocebo. Placebo is very much tied to expectations, that's how placebo pills work.

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[vibv]

3 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

@integral I use RoundUp for mouthwash

Gotta kill those weeds.