The Manosphere Isn't About Men. Or Women

[Basman]

[enchanted]

1 hour ago, Lila9 said:

1 No I don't agree with him and I honestly don't trust him, and his soft voice sounds not genuine.

2  This is clear to anyone who has eyes and ears.

3 There are homeless women (even with children) too.

 

1 You don't trust him because his voice?  Imagine I said I don't trust a female doctor because of her voice? 

2 It's isn't clear that's why there's debate on it. 

3 Yes but there are way more homeless men than women. So by that metric women are better off. 

Edited 8 hours ago by enchanted

[Lila9]

2 hours ago, enchanted said:

Well if the narrative that men control everything is true then everything around you - both good and bad- is created by men. But Farrel disagrees with this theory and suggestions women and the average man play a much more significant role in society than current narratives suggest. This demonstrates his background in feminism. 

Men don't control everything, but men have more power. I genuinely want to know what are the advantages of this system? Who it benefits?

2 hours ago, enchanted said:

Regarding your other points and arguments, they are one sided towards the female perspective. To truly get a grasp of this topic - which you are clearly very passionate about- I encourage you to explore the male perspective a little. If you think the male perspective is not worth exploring then that's your first clue you are missing a huge piece of the puzzle. 

Yes there's work to be done to improve the lives of people. Women are the only surpressed group that hold a majority at the polls. The next election women could change everything. 

From what I see, the male perspective is often very entitled and misogynistic.

They often view things in a such distorted and selfish way. 

Yet, I see men as human beings more than they see me as a human being.

My level of compassion toward men and all living beings is something that most men will never grasp or feel about women.

[enchanted]

2 minutes ago, Lila9 said:

From what I see, the male perspective is often very entitled and misogynistic.

They often view things in a such distorted and selfish way. 

Yet, I see men as human beings more than they see me as a human being.

My level of compassion toward men and all living beings is something that most men will never grasp or feel about women.

Well there you go.  Here's your huge blindspot and an opportunity for you to grow. 

Edited 6 hours ago by enchanted

[Lila9]

2 hours ago, enchanted said:

1 You don't trust him because his voice?  Imagine I said I don't trust a female doctor because of her voice? 

2 It's isn't clear that's why there's debate on it. 

3 Yes but there are way more homeless men than women. So by that metric women are better off. 

This is about the manipulative way he uses this soft, spiritual voice. It feels forced, and I sense a lack of genuineness.

Who is at fault of homelessness? Why there is homelessness?

[Lila9]

6 minutes ago, enchanted said:

Well there you go.  Here's your huge blindspot and an opportunity for you to grow. 

What exactly in this is my blind spot? Can you elaborate on it?

[enchanted]

2 hours ago, Lila9 said:

What exactly in this is my blind spot? Can you elaborate on it?

It shows you don't have a proper understanding of the other side of the debate. Men don't see their perspective as distorted, selfish, entitled, and misogynistic. Until you can articulate the other side of the argument as they see it, you don't have a complete understanding of the topic. 

Edited 4 hours ago by enchanted

[enchanted]

32 minutes ago, Lila9 said:

1 This is about the manipulative way he uses this soft, spiritual voice. It feels forced, and I sense a lack of genuineness.

2 Who is at fault of homelessness? Why there is homelessness?

1 what we "sense" isn't always correct.

2 It's a class struggle. There are cities without homelessness (e.g. Helsinki) but I bet you would still call them a patriarchy. 

[enchanted]

53 minutes ago, Lila9 said:

I genuinely want to know what are the advantages of this system? Who it benefits?

 

You can't think of anything good in the world? That's another blindspot

Edited 5 hours ago by enchanted

[Natasha Tori Maru]

2 hours ago, Lila9 said:

This is about the manipulative way he uses this soft, spiritual voice. It feels forced, and I sense a lack of genuineness.

It is a great tool to be able to separate how we feel about a delivery, from the actual facts, information and words used.

If our perception of facts/information + tone/delivery are jumbled together, it often leads us to defer to our feelings, over the truth.