Do men ''chase'' attractive women or attractive women ''come'' to them?

[Never_give_up]

If a man is attractive, does the woman try to come in social contact with them or are they just make subtle signals.

Obviously I wouldn't make this question if I was attractive. So I wonder what's the experience of attractive men. 

I mean, I want to know if a woman ever finds me attractive how she will act since I don't like making the first move ever. 

 

[Leo Gura]

If attractive enough some women will approach the man. But mostly men still have to approach, the women are just far more receptive and down to fuck.

[Leo Gura]

42 minutes ago, Never_give_up said:

I mean, I want to know if a woman ever finds me attractive how she will act since I don't like making the first move ever. 

Eye contact.

She will lock eyes with you and keep looking at you.

You can tell just by looking at her face if she likes you. Focus on learning women's facial reactions to you.

Edited yesterday at 12:23 AM by Leo Gura

[Natasha Tori Maru]

58 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Eye contact.

She will lock eyes with you and keep looking at you.

You can tell just by looking at her face if she likes you. Focus on learning women's facial reactions to you.

This is a big tell, I agree.

Knowing how to read body language and facial expression can mean your hit rate is much higher because you act on positive signals.

Lots of dudes do just spam approach hoping, but never actually end up learning and assessing a women's signals.

You can get flat rejections and some hostility even, if you fail in a reading of woman. Then you fall into the trap of thinking women flat hate being approached. Or that women hate men. Hate sexuality. Hate forwardness. Traps everywhere.

@Never_give_up Sometimes you will also notice a women may be partially turned toward you - their body may be facing you with eye contact or their face turned to you. Frequent small glances can also be a positive indicator.

Sometimes women will look in an admiring way - but this does not always mean they are dtf or want to be approached.

We aren't candid. I wish it were easier for dudes.

Edited yesterday at 12:54 AM by Natasha Tori Maru

[AION]

The body language will tell you more than the face. 

[gettoefl]

Woman has next to no interest in a man not into her or who witholds interest signals. Life's too short and plenty more fish in the sea. If she makes first moves, she compromises herself since this is the entire foundation of a potential relationship. She makes herself weak and desperate. Yes sometimes indeed rarely she will bypass this for a greater good - take a risk. Fact is that he must do the initial lifting to get it off the ground. Man decides on day 1 if she is right for him. She takes her sweet time deciding. So if she jumps in first beware - its a false flag. 

[Natasha Tori Maru]

@gettoefl I disagree.

I've made the first move plenty of times.

Doing so never weakened me in any capacity. It was simply earnest candid expression.

[Rishabh R]

@Leo Gura What about women who don't make eye contact with you initiating conversation with the you. 

I have had multiple instances of this happening to me.

[gettoefl]

6 minutes ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

@gettoefl I disagree.

I've made the first move plenty of times.

Doing so never weakened me in any capacity. It was simply earnest candid expression.

Of course there is exceptions which is why I said rarely. Anyone awake is beyond silly rules. For most it backfires. Man is lazy, takes a back seat and lets woman wear the pants. Fair play if that's what works.

[Spiral]

Girls approach me sometimes, but they are, however, rarely my type. 

[Leo Gura]

5 hours ago, Rishabh R said:

@Leo Gura What about women who don't make eye contact with you initiating conversation with the you. 

If it's a flirtatious conversation, yes, that's great.

If she is asking you where the bathroom is, no.

Edited 7 hours ago by Leo Gura

[AION]

3 hours ago, Spiral said:

Girls approach me sometimes, but they are, however, rarely my type. 

Only milfs approach me

If a girl is really hot she doesn’t need to approach

That is why it is rare I think. Or I’m just not cute enough.  

[Null Simplex]

On 3/26/2026 at 4:55 PM, Leo Gura said:

Eye contact.

She will lock eyes with you and keep looking at you.

You can tell just by looking at her face if she likes you. Focus on learning women's facial reactions to you.

• Locked eyes while smiling at me almost the entire conversation, even when the conversation would go silent
• Voice higher pitched than how she normally speaks
• Her friend came to get her, saying "We need to go." "Hold on.  Let him finish."
• "I assumed you would hate [being approached]."  "A lot of people think that, but I wish you could be inside me so you could see it from my perspective." 

....I may have missed some signs...

[Ramasta9]

"Obviously I wouldn't make this question if I was attractive" - I would like to touch upon this very important thing you said here.

I used to think like this when i was a teenager until i met all my cousins for the first time. They were older than me, and all seven of them women, very attractive I'd say. They told me everyday I am attractive and at first i didn't believe it because all the girls in school called me ugly, but after spending a a month or so at my aunties house i received a lot of positive words and love from them, eventually i came back to Australia when my holiday was over and I had a new belief / idea about myself. Then girls at school couldn't take their eyes of me, so i realized back then, the universe is a reflection of how you feel and see yourself on the inside, if you know you glow and own it, you own your reality and started to tap into how to master it.

(Mind over matter) is one of the most powerful things you can learn. These days I know without a shadow of a doubt I am beautiful, i cannot unsee it now when i look at myself in the mirror or feel my being, and I may not have the most doll-like / fuck-boy look, but plenty of real women love my natural and rugged look and find it very attractive, but mostly the energy I give off, from what I've been told. So this is something that i can leave with you that you can apply for the better.

To answer your other questions. Most woman usually find a confident man very attractive, so if you can make the first move great, but not always needed. In my experience, because i have this energy of not needing / not seeking and feeling mostly whole and content within myself, especially when I am more rested and grounded, i find that makes women even more interested in me, compared to when I am more in my ego and trying to play that old game. Interestingly tho, in the city women behave like flies around me, whereas in natural environments its like moths to a flame.

Not to talk it up, just my experience. I think its all about your energy and how you feel at the time that matters most. Be yourself.