Leo’s trans blog post

[Fabreeze]

I am aware the trans debate does have nuance especially when it comes to sports. I see and understand the arguments the right puts up and I can concede they have valid concerns in the domain of sports. 

I would just ask Leo if he genuinely believes the best thing to tell a trans person is that they don’t love themselves enough to be the gender they were assigned at birth? Or that their mind is corrupt and unstable? That seems pretty cold and harsh to me. 

what advice would Leo give someone who struggles with their identity and body image issues ?
 

I understand he can probably just tell them to drop the whole thing in some spiritual detachment sense and be ok with their body and assigned gender and sure you can do that but that kind of sounds like telling someone who’s gay in the 1940s to just stop being gay and like women. IMO.

 I also think it’s a red flag to buy into the right wing framing that trans people are looking to be trans just to have a leg up in a sport. I’m willing to bet the amount of trans athletes in this country is incredibly small. 
 

i think it’s wrong of Leo to claim that LGBTQ activists “can’t be trusted to be fair” when for the most part they’re battling the straight up hatred and venom the right spews at them disguised as genuine concern for women’s sports.
 

I believe the right is attempting to have this convo on their terms and with their own unfair framings of this topic. Just look at someone like Joe Rogan and the way he goes about discussing trans issues. 
 

P.S I am a Gen Z male who’s had relationships with trans women in the past so I do have a bias in being hyper defensive of lgbtq people. 
 

Thank you for any replies and thank you Leo for your work. 

[lostingenosmaze]

https://actualized.org/insights/trans-sports

Here's is the blogpost mentioned. Just felt compelled to share that since the blog gets updated everyday and new people can get the full context.

[LordFall]

Yeah I kinda see his point but I found that to be a wildly irresponsible and wrong take to post publicly as well. 

[Fabreeze]

@LordFall yes it is strange to see Leo have these sorts of takes as of late. 

[LordFall]

We are only human, everyone has biases. He posts his opinions on his personal blog which is fine as long as he's open to some pushback which he usually is. I think it's good, no guru has all the answers we're all only trying to figure it out. 

[Apparition of Jack]

On 24/3/2026 at 7:23 AM, Fabreeze said:

@LordFall yes it is strange to see Leo have these sorts of takes as of late. 

Leo is a conservative LARPing as some enlightened open-minded guru. His takes on most things are pretty dogshit.

[enchanted]

On 23/03/2026 at 2:51 PM, Fabreeze said:

I would just ask Leo if he genuinely believes the best thing to tell a trans person is that they don’t love themselves enough to be the gender they were assigned at birth? Or that their mind is corrupt and unstable? That seems pretty cold and harsh to me. 

All perspectives are partially wrong and incomplete. Therefore the trans perspective is too.  (And so is the CIS perspective). Just because criticizing trans is super taboo in left wing circles doesn't mean Leo can't criticize it. 

Not sure if Leo's criticism is valid but I think he means that if you are getting depressed by the "wrong" clothing than your mind is unstable. Imagine if I put on a hat of the "wrong gender" and got depressed? This includes shoes, nail polish, etc...

I always wondered if gender is a social construct how can you be born in the wrong gender?

[Fabreeze]

@enchanted I mean sure he’s in his right to “criticizing trans” he’s a grown man entitled to his opinions.
 

I just don’t see why he feels the need to refer to them as mentally unstable. Or that they should think about how dogs have no self image as if that helps people who struggle with this in their everyday life lmao

it just seems really “Joe Rogany” and out of touch of Leo to do that.  Especially in a time when this minority is under constant hyper scrutiny and ridiculed mercilessly by the right. I understand there’s generational gaps and he won’t view this like younger generations will and do. 
 

also sure it’s easy for Leo and others to dismiss this just as simply “feeling sad because you’re not wearing the right clothes”

but I’d ask Leo if he’d be comfortable being told he’s not mentally stable if he can’t bear to dress and act like a woman even if he feels like a cis man ?

would Leo say he doesn’t love himself enough to simply dress and act like a woman even if that doesn’t align with what he feels inside ? Is he corrupt for that ? 

Id like to think he’d answer this honestly and not just say that he’s above caring about wearing women’s clothing even if he doesn’t feel like one. 

 

thank you for the reply I hope you can understand where I’m coming from. 

[Leo Gura]

It's a nuanced issue, but there is an ideology surrounding the trans issue which has gone too far into self-deception. You can't really deny that. Trans ideology and confromity does require push-back. That is not transphobic, it is common sense.

Trans people can be treated with respect without accepting all their weird beliefs. There is no obligation to accept someone's beliefs about reality.

Edited 10 hours ago by Leo Gura

[Fabreeze]

@Leo Gura 

I understand that no group of people are above criticism, and that’s not what I’m trying to say by pushing back on your views. 

I just see this framing a lot by right wingers on tv/ social media, and I find that it’s a subtle smear.

“The trans ideology” 

”the trans agenda” 

I mean would you say it’s an ideology or agenda to be gay ? Lesbian ? Bisexual ? Straight ? 
 

you have the right to not accept the identity of someone trans I guess if that’s what you’re referring to when you mean that you are “under no obligation to accept their weird beliefs about reality.”

I’ve met trans and gay people personally and none have tried to convert me or change my mind about my own gender I just don’t understand what agenda is being pushed here. just regular people trying to live their lives normally. 

 

It seems to me like you’ve been influenced by right wing or “center” media as of late since I watched your trans video and I felt like you really dissected the subject and the existential aspects of it fairly and with more compassion and understanding towards transgender people. 
 

I wasn’t alive in the 80s or 90s but I can imagine conservatives of the time had similar talking points about gay and lesbian people as they do with trans people of today. 
 

It’s sort of like poisoning the well about a whole group of people by referring to their identities and journeys to it as some kind of nefarious or delusional agenda or ideology being pushed. at least my intuition is pointing me to that conclusion. 
 

I don’t think you are transphobic Leo. I’m simply sharing my views and concerns with you guys. Thank you. 
 

 

[Leo Gura]

20 minutes ago, Fabreeze said:

“The trans ideology” 

”the trans agenda”
I mean would you say it’s an ideology or agenda to be gay ? Lesbian ? Bisexual ? Straight ?

There certainly exists an LGBTQ ideology. Which is different from just one's sexual desires.

Your sexual desires are whatever they are. But then stage Green builds a complex web of beliefs on top of that.

For example, calling someone transphobic for not wanting to date trans people -- that's part of the ideology. Or calling someone transphobic for not wanting biological males into women's sports. These sorts of views I disagree with.

Don't forget there are plenty of gay conservatives like Peter Thiel or Dave Rubin, which shows the difference between sexual orientation vs ideology/worldview.

For example, telling school kids they can be whatever gender they want is a kind of ideology. And I don't agree with it.

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I’ve met trans and gay people personally and none have tried to convert me or change my mind about my own gender I just don’t understand what agenda is being pushed here. just regular people trying to live their lives normally.

Of course. Most gay people don't push any agenda. They just want to be treated with equal legal rights and respect.

But you can't deny there exists a small vocal minority of LGBTQ political activists who have pretty weird and radical views. These LGBTQ political activists do not have a deep understanding of truth or reality.

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It seems to me like you’ve been influenced by right wing or “center” media as of late

I am not partisan. I don't care if a position is left or right, I follow reality, truth, and common sense.

Right wingers make valid points sometimes. I am not a fan of excessive Stage Green SJW ideology as found on college campuses. It is very conformist and delusional in certain ways.

I am conservative is many respects, in the sense that I understand the harsh realities of the world and I don't like utopian views. I am sensitive to when liberalism goes too far. I do not like liberal decadence and frivolity. I like an old school approach, minus all the bigotry and dogma. I do not like things like free sex, drugs, rock & roll, and slacking off. I do not like sloppy and reckless ways that college kids live.

Edited 9 hours ago by Leo Gura

[Fabreeze]

@Leo Gura Leo I can concede that there are valid concerns like I said and I respect your opinion.

All I am is just very wary of the way these issues are being presented to the public and general population of this country by the right. I understand that you're non partisan but we have seen trump himself come out and say that schools are literally doing sexual operations at schools and kids are coming home transitioned. Now people with a functioning brain can sniff out the bs in that but for everyone else it taints their view of the lgbtq community and trans people in particular. This is the crux of my concern I guess. That we are letting the right push their own framing on this topic. 
 

Now when you say kids are being told they can be whatever gender they want do you think the most likely scenario is the teacher is literally telling school kids they can change genders Willy nilly or that most of them are creating an environment where a child who struggles with their own gender identity at an early age feels safe, seen and accepted?  Because to a right winger or someone “center” Joe Rogan for example (I bring him up because he’s a perfect example) the simple mentioning of transgender people in a elementary school is enough of a transgression and deemed “inappropriate”. 
 

maybe this is just my bias speaking again but I grew up in California the most liberal state arguably and no elementary teacher of mine ever spoke of gay people or even brought up the idea of any of us being gay. Not that I remember. So part of me really doubts that school teachers are literally telling kids that they can be male one day then female the next I’d hope that there is more nuance to that convo especially coming from a so called educated adult. 

I do not think it’s “utopian” or “liberal decadence” to advocate for public schools to create an environment where the kids are educated about the existence of trans people and to foster an environment of understanding and tolerance. 

that is just one of the issues you listed and I could go into each one but I hope you guys can see what I’m trying to get at. 
 

thank you for the thoughtful response Leo. 

Edited 8 hours ago by Fabreeze

[Leo Gura]

Example of LGBTQ as ideology:

The issue is that LGBTQ people don't just want to be themselves, they want to reshape culture around their worldview and they feel entitled to it, without any awareness that others can have legitimate but different views.

Edited 8 hours ago by Leo Gura

[Leo Gura]

 

[Terell Kirby]

29 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

The issue is that LGBTQ people don't just want to be themselves

Some, not all. You bring up good points about ideological nature of transgenderism-but best to avoid generalizations when addressing marginalized groups.

[Leo Gura]

1 hour ago, Terell Kirby said:

Some, not all. You bring up good points about ideological nature of transgenderism-but best to avoid generalizations when addressing marginalized groups.

Sure

[Adrian colby]

I’m in the middle of writing a fuller piece on this, but briefly:

I understand the issue with ideology, social pressure, and conformity but those operate at the level of symbolic identity (labels, roles, narratives). Conflating that with pre-symbolic identity( what emerges from underlying biological organisation) is a category error.

Biological systems can form stable patterns we recognise as identity while still containing internal incoherence. When a system moves to resolve that and become more functionally aligned and efficient increasing its potential, that’s not avoiding reality…it’s responding to it and taking appropriate action. Telling someone with that predicament to just sit there and accept themselves, misunderstands that is exactly what they are doing! Reducing this to delusion or lack of self-acceptance collapses distinct layers into one, and overlooks how biological systems actually work: dynamic, adaptive, and not fixed.

The comparison to animals “just accepting reality” also misses the point. Non-human animals do not possess the same level of self-reflective cognition or the capacity to analyse and intervene in their own biological and psychological processes despite having inate intelligent emergent identity. Humans can recognise internal incoherence and respond to it. sometimes medically, sometimes behaviourally which is precisely what makes this discussion possible in the first place.

The same confusion shows up in the “trans in sports” debate. It treats sex as a single, fixed property, when it’s actually a cluster of interacting developmental processes shaped by signalling and environment. Puberty does create meaningful differences but it is not the whole system. The relevant question isn’t what category someone is placed in, but whether specific performance-related traits developed, and whether they persist. Individuals who do not undergo their originally assigned puberty and instead develop under a different hormonal environment, do not acquire many of the traits typically cited as unfair advantage so why implement generalised ban?

We already see that biology does not follow rigid categories. Conditions like 5-alpha reductase deficiency (guevedoces) show how developmental pathways can shift, leading to male-typical outcomes despite earlier female classification. Other conditions prevent male-typical development entirely, resulting in individuals who remain within female physiological ranges and sometimes completely unaware of the condition ( but those individuals mostly have coherent systems where trans do not. Some are actually trans as well) So reducing the issue to fixed labels like “male” and “female” misses how biological systems actually function as dynamic processes producing a coherent outcome ( recognisable pattern) Because ultimately, you are not just a set of signals or components. you are the integrated result of them: a biological system organising itself toward coherence over time.

And it’s also worth being mindful of how this is discussed especially dismissive and invalidating language. For people actually living this as their direct experience, hostile imposition has real consequences. Social pressure can lead to suppression, adaptation over prolonged internal conflict, and eventual deterioration into mental illness. 

You don’t have to agree or be supportive. But contributing to an environment that increases harm to people already navigating this reality is something we should at least be conscious of.

 

[Leo Gura]

This kind of nonsense is what I mean by trans ideology:

I'm supposed to like dick to make trans people feel secure about themselves? Hell naw.

I'm supposed have sex with fat people to make them feel good about themselves? This is insane.

This is why Trump wins elections. Not even joking.

Edited 3 hours ago by Leo Gura

[Nercohype]

Why not let then do what they want to be? I just don't understand this trans obsession. It is very petty. Personally I don't care what they do. If they want to dress up and be feminine, then they can do that! It dosen't hurt anyone... Unlike rightwingism.. That has brought our world into chaos and darkness. Since ancient times, the rightwingism has been our enemy. Enemy of the people. Rightwingism values death, hatred, chaos, apathy, greed, lust and violence. Only the naive will defend the rightwingism 

[Leo Gura]

8 minutes ago, Nercohype said:

Why not let then do what they want to be?

No one cares what they do in their private lives. The problem arises if they try to change others to suit their needs, like in sports. Or telling children to swap genders.

I don't want some activist telling my child that he can swap genders willy nilly. That is a dangerous game.

Edited 3 hours ago by Leo Gura