Brain rewrites memories each time you recall them.

[Natasha Tori Maru]

29 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

I don't remember many things, but those I remember, are accurate. I don't just make shit up like some sloppy fool these scientists would like me to believe.

I think it isn't as extreme as saying the brain totally changes shit when we recall memories, but they gradually shift and change with each recall. I think it is a very slow process.

There are actually shitloads of studies and well established findings around memory being a reconstruction that shifts over time. Frederic Bartlett, Elizabeth Loftus did work on how we actively fill gaps with what makes sense, change details to match beliefs, simplify shit and how we can genuinely be convinced of shit that never happened. Satanic Panic stuff. Hermann Ebbinghaus did work on how time degrades accuracy of memory.

We can skew the original sensory imprint we have due to internal biases within us. 

As soon as you alter the language we use around a memory ie smashed vs hit this can change a lot. It is some of the basis around neuro linguistic programming.

It is actually a huge foundational point to reaffirm your case that bias is just THAT big in humans.

Not arguing against your good memory, more that I have seen the sort of stupid shit people pull with recall. Brainwashing themselves.

Edited 9 hours ago by Natasha Tori Maru

[Joshe]

This is the whole reason statue of limitation exists. Memories eventually become unreliable unless they're kept alive.

The Mandela Effect comes to mind.

• Was there a show called "Sex In The City" or "Sex and The City"? 
• Is it "Oscar Meyer" or "Oscar Mayer"? 
• Is it "Sketchers" or "Skechers" shoes? 
• Did the Monopoly Man have a monocle?
• Is there a hyphen in KitKat?
• Did Forrest Gump say "Life is like a box of chocolates"?
• Did Curious George have a tail?
• How did Mickey Mouse hold up his pants?
• Did Sinbad play a genie in the movie "Shazaam"? lol 

Answers: https://www.goodhousekeeping.com/entertainment/g28438966/mandela-effect-examples/

Aside from making shit up, we also create memories by imagining things, and then in the future we sometimes mistake what we imagined for an actual experience. For example, when I was a kid I heard stories about traumatic situations that I was too young to remember, and so I created really vivid pictures/clips in my head about what took place, and for most of my life I thought those imaginings actually occurred. 

We're all susceptible to these things. 

[Leo Gura]

45 minutes ago, Joshe said:

The Mandela Effect comes to mind.

• Was there a show called "Sex In The City" or "Sex and The City"? 
• Is it "Oscar Meyer" or "Oscar Mayer"? 
• Is it "Sketchers" or "Skechers" shoes? 
• Did the Monopoly Man have a monocle?
• Is there a hyphen in KitKat?
• Did Forrest Gump say "Life is like a box of chocolates"?
• Did Curious George have a tail?
• How did Mickey Mouse hold up his pants?
• Did Sinbad play a genie in the movie "Shazaam"? lol 

Has nothing to do with the accuracy of my memories.

This is irrelevant trivia.

Edited 8 hours ago by Leo Gura

[Harikrishnan]

There is a method practiced by people in neville goddard sub and many loa forum called revision. Where they revise things happened in the past according to how they want it be played out. Gives them more power.

 

[Raze]

2 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

I don't remember many things, but those I remember, are accurate. I don't just make shit up like some sloppy fool these scientists would like me to believe.

How do you know slight details and certain emotions didn’t change in the memories over time? 

[Leo Gura]

@Raze How do you know you weren't a gorilla until yesterday?

[gengar]

8 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

@Raze How do you know you weren't a gorilla until yesterday?

I thought you explicated that God is always imagining its past in the present moment - meaning nothing ever "happened", and your entire past is imaginary. If that is true and the absolute claim you thus make is that God is always imagining it's memories, why does imagining your memories in the relative human sense suddenly become an unrealistic claim for you? If God's memories are fake in the absolute sense, that should only make you doubt your memories more in the relative domain, considering the relative is a derivative of the absolute, no?

[Leo Gura]

40 minutes ago, gengar said:

If God's memories are fake in the absolute sense, that should only make you doubt your memories more in the relative domain, considering the relative is a derivative of the absolute, no?

No

[Joshe]

2 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

Has nothing to do with the accuracy of my memories.

This is irrelevant trivia.

If you have very high confidence that Forrest Gump said “ life is like a box of chocolates”, then you have high confidence in something that isn’t true. Lol. It doesn’t matter if it’s trivial or irrelevant. It’s good to understand the implications of this. 

[Natasha Tori Maru]

2 hours ago, Harikrishnan said:

There is a method practiced by people in neville goddard sub and many loa forum called revision. Where they revise things happened in the past according to how they want it be played out. Gives them more power.

This overlaps with neuro linguistic programming.

[Hojo]

4 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

I don't remember many things, but those I remember, are accurate. I don't just make shit up like some sloppy fool these scientists would like me to believe.

They are saying you can tho. You not doing it dosent have anything to do with the article. And you might actually be doing it and not realize.  Acknowledging that the memory is true is changing it.

Acknoledging that a memory happened and is not happening is an update to the memory.

Edited 5 hours ago by Hojo

[No1Here2c]

Love the cold hard Truth.

33 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

No

Leo would you be able to send me on my way?

Edited 5 hours ago by No1Here2c

[No1Here2c]

2 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

How do you know you weren't a gorilla until yesterday?

Save for the fact that I do not.

Memory tells me so, but that doesnt actually occur in yesterday. That occurs here and now.

Memory seems to occur where ever I am situated, given the intended operation of my human faculties. Though it does not occur out in the visual field or projected inside the back of my dark skull like flickering candle light. But I do experience it and it is here.

Uh-oh— It seems I do not know whether I've just spawned in right this instant or if I've been here the entire time. Does it really make a difference? Wouldn't they both look exactly the same?

What is here and now?

What are human faculties & how does that tie into my sense-making of reality?

Edited 4 hours ago by No1Here2c

[Leo Gura]

1 hour ago, Joshe said:

If you have very high confidence that Forrest Gump said “ life is like a box of chocolates”, then you have high confidence in something that isn’t true. Lol. It doesn’t matter if it’s trivial or irrelevant. It’s good to understand the implications of this. 

Mama always said, life is laik a box a chock-laats. Ya neva know whacha gonna get.

Edited 4 hours ago by Leo Gura

[Natasha Tori Maru]

What the fuck is memory anyway - it's literally the small 'self' 💀

[No1Here2c]

14 minutes ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

the small 'self' 💀

Dont worry all of that should fade away anyhow. Maybe very quickly, maybe gradually. Perhaps in one single Instant. At once. Almost certainly it will.

Edited 4 hours ago by No1Here2c

[Hojo]

@Natasha Tori MaruThe substance that keeps you in the current dream. The karma. Just things you keep saying yes that happened.

Edited 4 hours ago by Hojo

[No1Here2c]

Just now, Hojo said:

@Natasha Tori MaruThe substance that keeps you in the current dream. The karma.

Like these words here?

Or is it beyond the words? Something second order to the words themselves?

Is it the mind?

No okay its words+the mind?

Well no there is more to it than that.

See we could do this all night.

[Hojo]

@No1Here2cThought patterns that keep coming back that you keep adding too unconciously.

[No1Here2c]

How do you become conscious of the unconscious reinforcement?

Can it be put to an end?