What is Pedophilia?

[Cred]

1 hour ago, yetineti said:

The Truth is: your path and the way you view these topics may come from a different direction, but ultimately need to end up in the same place as everyone else.

What do you mean by this? My guess is that you are confused about the fact that I'm talking about ADHD without mentioning attention or hyperactivity. This is very intentional. I think ADHD has nothing to do with hyperactivity and problems to focus. It is not respecting the order from authority to sit still and focus on what authority wants. Terms like "respect", "loyalty" and "authority" make no sense when you have ADHD. I remember when I was a child I constantly asked myself what teachers meant when they said shit like "you are not respecting me".

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How does solving this lead you closer to the Truth or a better life even?

If one understands exactly what causes ADHD, they will be able to emphasize way more with them when they babysit them or meet them in general.

People with ADHD have super high depression rate because people don't understand them and they don't understand exactly what makes them different since the current popular understanding of ADHD is dogshit.

By helping to increase understanding and therefore tolerance, I think my model can help drastically reduce depression and other mental illnesses. I think it is not improbable that I will save someone from committing suicide with my work. 

Edited 10 hours ago by Cred

[caspex]

2 hours ago, Cred said:

If you alienate pedophiles (okay at this point I might have to clarify that I'm not a pedophile) what happens is

This thread is pure comedy

[Xonas Pitfall]

1 hour ago, caspex said:

If you alienate pedophiles (okay at this point I might have to clarify that I'm not a pedophile) what happens is

This thread is pure comedy

🤣🤣🤣

[Carl-Richard]

1. You're describing having a moral perspective on pedophilia, not merely being sexually attracted to children. It's hard to pin down the data exactly, but the data says probably most pedophilies don't act it out, probably because they know it's not morally or socially acceptable. 

2. You're describing being in a relationship with a child as pedophilia, not merely being attracted to them sexually. This is like saying you're gay if you want to marry men but not sleep with them on a one night stand.

In other words, most pedophiles are not amoral sociopaths, and most pedophiles are probably not in a relationship with a child (i.e. child molesters). 

You had bad luck running into this forum with all the (ex-) Mr. Girl fans. We know pedophilia inside and out 🙂 (but we're not pedophiles 🙂 ... but it's a spectrum anyway 🙂).

You would actually benefit from watching Mr. Girl's discussions with Destiny from back in the day where they discuss psychology, relationships, mental illnesses, etc. I think it would get you to question your DSM-5-heavy framework. Mr. Girl is actually a genius (or that was at least my impression 5 or so years ago, and granted he has a mountainous "self", which is subtle but still massive when you spot it).

Also, a curious clash of worlds: Mr. Girl was one of the most vocal public people around Dr. K's therapeutic misconduct and reported him to the Massachusetts medical board along with a few other people, and eventually, Dr. K got a reprimand on his license.

Edited 2 hours ago by Carl-Richard

[yetineti]

@Cred Thanks for your response. Clarified a lot, really. Can you elaborate on your alienation vs. dissonance model? It made sense to me.

I think you clarified your use case quite clearly. I would like to ask—what are your expectations on this model? You do recognize the difficulty?

I am extremely open minded and rarely shut down ideas as I may have tried to in this thread. That being said, I did not do that because I do not see the potential. I did it because that level of ‘productive extraction’ from criminals, pedos, etc. is extremely controversial and difficult to manage.

What you suggest would be an extremely high level intelligent society I do not see happening anytime soon.

So, I will retract my ‘warning’ from ‘dangerous’ or ‘concerning’ to ‘quite ambitious?’

Too ambitious?

Help me understand. Thanks.

[Leo Gura]

2 hours ago, Carl-Richard said:

In other words, most pedophiles are not amoral sociopaths, and most pedophiles are not in a relationship with a child (i.e. child molesters). 

Bro, how do you know?

I would bet most pedophiles consume child porn.

I ain't gonna believe they are moral enough to never indulge their urges.

That's like me trusting a dude to never look at a pussy.

Edited 4 hours ago by Leo Gura

[Carl-Richard]

1 hour ago, Leo Gura said:

Bro, how do you know?

I would bet most pedophiles consume child porn.

I ain't gonna believe they are moral enough to never indulge their urges.

That's like me trusting a dude to never look at a pussy.

I might have slightly misremembered the data. There is data that says most convicted child molesters are not pedophiles, they are simply sociopaths on a power trip (which is actually consistent with some of @Cred's reasoning). But are most pedophiles child molesters (convicted or unconvicted)? Maybe harder to pinpoint. But even there, the data seems to indicate that most pedophiles are not child molesters (but again, harder to pinpoint).

I think I remember reading some statistics in a psych book about this but I would have to dig to find it.

Edited 2 hours ago by Carl-Richard

[Leo Gura]

5 minutes ago, Carl-Richard said:

But even there, the data seems to indicate that most pedophiles are not child molesters

Only cause it's not so easy to find a child to fuck.

You gotta be mad horny for a child to risk life in prison.

If sex involved a high chance of prison, I would never have sex.

[Natasha Tori Maru]

I used to manage a print centre 15 years ago. 

We printed photos from memory cards, USB and CD. 

A lot of shit was handed to the po-po. I have seen some evil.