Toranvor

Why would it be impossible for God to create other minds?

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13 hours ago, Toranvor said:

I think I know where you are coming from, you mean that, since God is existence itself (this current experience), it cannot be divided, therefore, other experiences cannot exist?

Obviously they can, because if not all the eternity would be a person in the earth with a phone now. 

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10 hours ago, Breakingthewall said:

Obviously they can, because if not all the eternity would be a person in the earth with a phone now. 

And why it can't be?

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52 minutes ago, Toranvor said:

And why it can't be?

Because everything that appears is change, as we can see, then at the end this structure of experience will dissapear, same than everything that appears. 

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16 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

Because everything that appears is change, as we can see, then at the end this structure of experience will dissapear, same than everything that appears. 

You’re moving from ‘this experience ends’ to ‘there must be others,’ and I’m not sure that follows logically.

 

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It’s more like asking, ‘Why is it impossible for an ice cream not to be made out of ice, water, milk, and flavor?’ When you ask, ‘Why is it impossible for God not to have others?’ it’s not that it couldn’t happen, it’s that then it wouldn’t be God by definition (its essence, nature).

Or saying: ‘Why is it impossible for a cloud not to be in the sky and made of water vapor and tiny water droplets or ice crystals?’ I could imagine a cloud that’s as hard as a rock, sitting on the ground and made of stone!’ That’s fine, you can do that, but that wouldn’t be a cloud; it would be a rock by any common definition.


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Why can't my mother have a dick?

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You are God. You are Truth. You are Love. You are Infinity.

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5 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Why can't my mother have a dick?

;)

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On 17/03/2026 at 10:15 AM, vibv said:

God will have to re-unite itself someday and then YOU/WE'll remember EVERYTHING, all life experiences get consolidated in THE ONE.

It's clear why the ego-mind doesn't necessarily want that so badly.

But Love does.

Its your prerogative to believe that. But you've written it like a hard fact... It's just the way you see things, you don't know if such event will happen for sure. 

 


I don't know what I know, but I know that I know.

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3 minutes ago, Dodo said:

Its your prerogative to believe that. But you've written it like a hard fact... It's just the way you see things, you don't know if such event will happen for sure. 

 

I'm not sure about everything, but about that I'm absolutely certain.

There's no other way.

It's already the case, but WE/YOU don't know that yet, because we're in time. But that's only temporary (ha).

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God can do whatever God wants.  Its one of the perks of being God. 

And by all appearances what God wants to do right now is jerk himself off an internet forum and yell at himself over who is having the better dream.

 

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8 minutes ago, Willy Phallicus said:

God can do whatever God wants. 

But He can't not be God. Except he can, but only for a finite time.

God invented time to have the experience of not being God. He made the impossible possible while at the same it remains true: He was never not God, He only imagined to be finite.

But He forgot it so completely, that He still hasn't figured it out yet, while the GODDESS laughs Her ass off at Him.

All incarnations come from the Masculine Eternal Principle while the Feminine Eternal Principle gave birth to the universe. It's precisely that Split that allows anything to exist at all—and together they birth LOVE in an eternal dance of unfathomable Beauty & Ecstasy.

Her nature is Darkness & His nature is Light.

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13 minutes ago, vibv said:

I'm not sure about everything, but about that I'm absolutely certain.

There's no other way.

It's already the case, but WE/YOU don't know that yet, because we're in time. But that's only temporary (ha).

I am not in space and time, I am here and now, you are also. 


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Just now, Dodo said:

I am not in space and time, I am here and now, you are also. 

You are a Human being in a dream with a (hi)story. That's true, too. Out of that perspective you see & interpret everything, while writing those words with human hands.


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What God is - is what is happening right now, at this moment, on this forum.

 

 

 

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Just now, Willy Phallicus said:

What God is - is what is happening right now, at this moment, on this forum.

Exactly ;) ✨

Until the End Of History, that we shape ourselves. It's an interactive Divine Artpiece we're creating together. The more conscious we do that the more Beauty we bring into it.


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5 minutes ago, vibv said:

You are a Human being in a dream with a (hi)story. That's true, too. Out of that perspective you see & interpret everything, while writing those words with human hands.

You are overthinking it... thats why you talk about merging and knowing all experiences. Its nonsense. You need to be more atheistically spiritual in my opinion. Firmly rooted on the ground. You are yourself either way, you cant escape what you are. 

Think about the golden middle. 

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4 minutes ago, Dodo said:

You are overthinking it... thats why you talk about merging and knowing all experiences. Its nonsense. You need to be more atheistically spiritual in my opinion. Firmly rooted on the ground. You are yourself either way, you cant escape what you are. 

You're underusing your mind when you're not creating. That's what we're here for.

And you do, as you write those words.

Presence is important, too. But that's not what I'm talking about right now. It's over-talked of.

Our problems arise because, for the most part, we're creating unconsciously rather than consciously on this planet right now.

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You (Pure Infinite Consciousness) are God. Once you reach a high enough consciousness and fully realize this, you will realize you are Alone. No other minds exist. Every 'other' mind is an imagination in the only one Mind that exists. You can become absolutely conscious of this. What you will eventually awaken to and realize, either through psychedelics, deep contemplation, or upon your body's physical death, is that your POV is absolute and other minds are completely imaginary.

Remember: space, time, causality, individuality are things dreamt up by God. It may seem in your current dream that there are billions of conscious sentient beings, but ultimately they are all You. They are figments in your mind. Of course, you can dream up what it would be like to be these beings after your current dream. But, until you do so, they ONLY exist as figments of imagination in your Mind.

Right now, if your consciousness isn't high enough, they may seem like real 'other' minds in your POV. However, your POV is the only thing that exists. To experience this 'other' mind IS to BE/DREAM UP that mind.. in which case it would still be You!! Therefore me typing this is YOU typing this!! How is this possible if you're the only sentient being? Because TIME AND CAUSALITY are dreamt up as well! Paradoxes are possible in Infinity. It is not a bug, but a feature.

Ultimately, there is only one conscious being in all of existence, and that is God. Think about it this way: The concept of 'Other' only exists as a distinction in God's mind. God can never experience an other directly. To experience and validate this 'other' God would have to imagine itself as that other. In which case this other would just be God! God can only experience God.

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Infinite possibilities and Im on my Actualized.org forums talking to myself like this again.

Pretty sure I put some better content on the internet.  

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Just now, Willy Phallicus said:

Infinite possibilities and Im on my Actualized.org forums talking to myself like this again.

Pretty sure I put some better content on the internet.  

There's nothing better to do than what is being done in every moment. It's all perfection.


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