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What actually is Israel?

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9 hours ago, cistanche_enjoyer said:

Israel is a perfect example of how evil can stem from unconscious survival.

I noticed most Israelis have an absolute lack of compassion towards others;

What a coincidence that I hear the same language from anti-Palestinian voices in my country too. It is up to you if you want to break the cycle of dehumanization or fuel it.

Edited by Nivsch

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2 hours ago, Nivsch said:

What a coincidence that I hear the same language from anti-Palestinian voices here too. It is up to you if you want to break the cycle of dehumanization or fuel it.

What you're suggesting is impossible, since they'll tell you that Palestinian violence is justified. They defend themselves against the evil Jew with intifadas, terrorist attacks, and even parading 18-year-old girls with all broken bones almost dying while the entire population cheers is legitimate, since the evil Jew is evil, and the good Palestinian Fremen are defending themselves against absolute evil, which is the bad Jew who deserves to die. Therefore, burning 18-year-old girls alive with gasoline while hysterically shouting "Allah is great" is absolutely normal, and you deserve it, you disgusting Jew genocidal. 

Then, if you want to content those people, you have just to disappear. The other option is forget those people and survive doing what is necessary. That's life. 

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Best way I can ever describe Israel is a country with very high cognitive and intellectual development and low moral development.

One of the few countries where the disparity between cognitive and moral development is so wide.

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24 minutes ago, Karmadhi said:

Best way I can ever describe Israel is a country with very high cognitive and intellectual development and low moral development.

Exactly. In the “Law of One” Ra describes it as the 4th density negative polarity (service to self).

Some aspects of 4th density negative behavior:

  • They may seek to gain power over others, using fear and separation to maintain control.
  • It is not necessarily chaotic; it can be a highly organized, albeit controlling, society.
  • They are known to be selfish and not interested in serving or helping others.
  • They often do not have compassion for others.

Nevertheless, it’s pointless to be angry or resentful towards them. They are already paying a huge price for this type of behavior - i.e., the lack of Love. Which is the only thing that ultimately matters.

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Israel is a colony, a land stolen to the Palestinians through murderous ethnic cleansing by mostly Eastern Europeans and ex USSR citizens. As we can see in the chart, not only in the 40's, it has never stopped, and it was the most numerous in the 90's which means all these land and home thieves are pretty much alive. Counting with their direct descendants, more than 95% of the colonizers are not original from the land, Palestians are, who have nothing to do with the horrible things that Jews suffered in Europe by the Nazis and others.

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Israel is the home of the Jewish people, but not only. This is a home to Muslims and Christians as well.
This is the only democracy in the Middle East, and the only place in the Middle East that supports or have awareness to animal rights, women’s rights, and LGBTQ rights. Hopefully, it remains that way.
Israel is a tech-oriented country with a developed scientific sector that has contributed to humanity.

 


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1 hour ago, Lila9 said:

Israel is the home of the Jewish people, but not only. This is a home to Muslims and Christians as well.
This is the only democracy in the Middle East, and the only place in the Middle East that supports or have awareness to animal rights, women’s rights, and LGBTQ rights. Hopefully, it remains that way.
Israel is a tech-oriented country with a developed scientific sector that has contributed to humanity.

 

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On 17.3.2026 at 1:44 PM, Nivsch said:

Before 2000, the IDF maintained a much lighter level of control with significantly fewer restrictions on movement. 

What need to be understood is that many Israelis aren't experience Palestinians as innocent after years of terror attacks. For them there are a threat to their lives.

 

Its because your media and your televisions dont tell you about the terrorattacks against PAlestinians that have been ongoing in the Westbank since 1967 and you forget the brutal occupation of Gaza until 2005, why do you think  people there radicalized and turned to Hamas?

Do you think that all those children that had to watch their parents die next to them being burnt alive or being buried alive, that those children wont join Hamas?

There is a serious Power Imbalance here, with Israel being a recognized State as a military nuclear superpower who nobody can do anything against and the Palestinians that dont even have a state and have to endure Violence by Illegal settlers that kill their families and destroy their houses. 

The only way is a government that cooperates with the PLO in order to establish a two-state solution and a long-term peace process, right now we only see ISraelis voting lunatics and religious fanatics into parliament that boast about having destroyed the idea of a PAlestinian State and they actually finance the Terrorist Settlers in the Westbank, they give them money to murder PAlestinians, and when a PAlestinian defends himself, hell get into prison.

The atrocities and the absolute misery brought upon the civilian population in Gaza is not even mentioned here.

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18 hours ago, Lila9 said:

Israel is the home of the Jewish people, but not only. This is a home to Muslims and Christians as well.
This is the only democracy in the Middle East, and the only place in the Middle East that supports or have awareness to animal rights, women’s rights, and LGBTQ rights. Hopefully, it remains that way.
Israel is a tech-oriented country with a developed scientific sector that has contributed to humanity.

 

Lebanon and Iraq are democracies too.

Being a Democracy means absolutely nothing, when you vote tyrannts into your parliament that boast about the destruction and finance the murder of innocent PAlestinian Children and Families.

Dont close your eyes to these atrocities, be aware of them promote peace, instead of murder and violence, because where you live you can sip on your cocktail in your warm housing, while little Palestinian Children are suffering Hunger and Terror day by day, in Gaza and in the West Bank.

 

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On 17.3.2026 at 6:58 PM, TheSomeBody said:

1. some do use it, some dont. most of them dont.
2.i live here , you watch youtube, that is the diffrence.
3.they called hamas amalec, not Palestinians. you cant know what they are saying without knowing hebrew as your mother tongue and live here
4.west bank is in the territory of judea and samaria. we call egypt the biblical name too, so what? 
5.no i am not, you dont have the access and world view that a native to israel have. you have your own cultural view, your personal bias and it is all being explained to you by youtube while i live here and know what is going on here and what people mean. what i say is fact while what you say is the info you can access on youtube .

the only people that can mediate to you what happening here is the average people that lives here . not a youtuber or any kind of influencer.
it is the same as chinese understand americans, they are like hamburger and cars. they understand you in a way that will feel very foreign and wierd and out of touch. this is the way you see israelies.

also jewish people use commentary on the Old Testament. most of the studends of judaism bearly know the old testament, only commentary on commentary. 

 

Man why do you close your eyes to that Atrocities?

The IDF soldiers were chanting we will exterminate Amalec and they document it, you can see it online everywhere. When Netanyahu sayd Amalec he means the total destruction of the people of PAlestine, because the Amalec reference refers to the total destruction of men, women and children and even Animals.

You cannot cherrypick it to suit your conscience, its absolutely disgusting to use the reference of Amalec towards any people, because thereby you legitimize the murder of innocent Women and Children and even Animals, what the hell did the animals do?

I dont watch only Youtube I watch international News too, and we in contrast to you ISraelis can see the Atrocities. We know that Israeli Journalists dont cover the Genocide and dont show the misery and destruction they put upon the Palestinians, there are documentaries about Israeli Journalists purposely not covering it, so we here outside of ISrael see alot more than you on your Israeli Media.

To the contrary, Israeli Journalists are even known to support the Genocide like Zvi Yehezkeli (Channel 13), Yinon Magal (Channel 14), Shimon Riklin (Channel 14), Itamar Fleishman (Channel 14).

Your media ist actually evil, you shouldnt trust them at all, if you have any kind of heart toward innocent Children. You should be supporting peace and a two-state solution because after all ISraelis immigrated into PAlestinian Lands and not the other way around. So without respecting the native population you will be in serious trouble forever

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On 18.3.2026 at 4:46 PM, Breakingthewall said:

What you're suggesting is impossible, since they'll tell you that Palestinian violence is justified. They defend themselves against the evil Jew with intifadas, terrorist attacks, and even parading 18-year-old girls with all broken bones almost dying while the entire population cheers is legitimate, since the evil Jew is evil, and the good Palestinian Fremen are defending themselves against absolute evil, which is the bad Jew who deserves to die. Therefore, burning 18-year-old girls alive with gasoline while hysterically shouting "Allah is great" is absolutely normal, and you deserve it, you disgusting Jew genocidal. 

Then, if you want to content those people, you have just to disappear. The other option is forget those people and survive doing what is necessary. That's life. 

Nobody talks about Jews as a people to be harmed except you and those other hypocrites. You try to bring Religion into a game where you know that this conflict is not Religious at least not from the Palestinian Side (From the ISraeli Side with all the references to Amalec, the Old Testament and Judea and Samaria, yes it is religious)

But seriously you are just a bigot, your hatred towards Muslims is so enormous that you can see 30.000 little Palestinian Children being slaughtered in a city the size of cologne and you have no tear on your eyes, you even support that.  Whereever there is something about Muslims here in the forum, you are always on the forefront of that crusade to make sure, Muslims dont deserve to live.

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7 minutes ago, Schahin said:

see 30.000 little Palestinian Children being slaughtered in a city the size of cologne and you have no tear on your eyes, you even support that. 

No, I don't support the killing of children , what I said is that if Palestinians focus on a culture of hatred, martyrdom, and death as core values, it's impossible for them to achieve anything different to that.

Israelis are expected to be benevolent toward a people whose core value is the destruction of Israel, but this is unrealistic. 

Of course, it's absolute sterile pointing that to you, because you are a emotional Muslim full of victimhood ,then you will say that I like murder babies, but anyway I do, just as an exercise without any hope. 

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