Concern about "True Religion"

[Eskilon]

True religion is not a new concept.

Osho was saying those things too in his days. 

It's basically non-ideological truth seeking.

Edited 6 hours ago by Eskilon

[Leo Gura]

Ken Wilber wrote a book: The Religion of Tomorrow

Religion is just a set of teachings for reaching God. That's all religion is. But those teachings are usually very corrupt.

Edited 5 hours ago by Leo Gura

[Eskilon]

8 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

But those teachings are usually very corrupt.

Especially the 3 abraahamic ones: Cristianity, Judaism, and Islam. This 3 religions are so full of shit that one should be better of avoiding them altogether if one were to be really efficient.

[Leo Gura]

9 minutes ago, Eskilon said:

Especially the 3 abraahamic ones: Cristianity, Judaism, and Islam. This 3 religions are so full of shit that one should be better of avoiding them altogether if one were to be really efficient.

Which is why I had to create my own.

The old ones cannot be reformed.

Even Buddhism I didn't like. Too conformist.

Edited 5 hours ago by Leo Gura

[Eskilon]

13 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Even Buddhism I didn't like. Too conformist.

The great thing about Buddhism is that theres no priest. Theres no middleman and theres no one to believe. Buddha made sure to say in his sutras that everything is your responsability and to allude to no bearded man in the sky. Not even the concept of soul exist in Buddhism, while in Jainism and Hinduism it exist. You and reality is a direct process, no beliefs.  

Edited 5 hours ago by Eskilon

[Leo Gura]

15 minutes ago, Eskilon said:

The great thing about Buddhism is that theres no priest. Theres no middleman and theres no one to believe.

In theory. But in practice Buddhism is taught dogmatically and most minds never break free of the Buddhist box.

Shinzen Young is still in the Buddhism box.

Buddhism doesn't give the cognitive development tools to truly break free.

Edited 4 hours ago by Leo Gura

[Eskilon]

8 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

But in practice Buddhism is taught dogmatically and most minds never break free of the Buddhist box.

That's why you need to self-teach.

Of course humans corrupt the original teaching. Buddha never said to belive in stuff, not even in him. 

He gave you methods and you were the one to confirm if what he is saying is true or not.

Edited 4 hours ago by Eskilon

[Leo Gura]

27 minutes ago, Eskilon said:

He gave you methods

His methods are pretty weak. They don't work for many people. And they are missing a lot of newer psychological stuff. They are 2000 years old.

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[Eskilon]

14 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

He methods are pretty weak. They don't work for many people

If you have mental diarrhea and monkeys jumping around them sure. His methods work for many thats why its still around.

 

Edited 4 hours ago by Eskilon

[Leo Gura]

7 minutes ago, Eskilon said:

why its still around.

Christianity is still around.

If his methods are so great, why is less than 1% of Buddhists enlightened?

Is <1% really an acceptable success rate for a religion?

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[Eskilon]

5 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

If his methods are so great, why is less than 1% of Buddhists enlightened?

Is <1% really an acceptable success rate for a religion?

I can throw that back to you and say the same thing about psychedelics

It seems that enlightenment is rare irrespective of method.

Edited 4 hours ago by Eskilon

[Leo Gura]

30 minutes ago, Eskilon said:

I can throw that back to you and say the same thing about psychedelics

It seems that enlightenment is rare irrespective of method.

Success of finding God on 5-MeO-DMT is really high, like 50%+

How can you ask for anything better?

I am happy to stack my teachings against Buddhism. That's why I created them. To be more effective. If any teaching is more effective than mine, then you should use that teaching.

Edited 3 hours ago by Leo Gura

[LambdaDelta]

29 minutes ago, Eskilon said:

I can throw that back to you and say the same thing about psychedelics

It seems that enlightenment is rare irrespective of method.

It would be interesting to collect the statistics on this somehow. Every now and then people pop up on the forum either after years of absence or just entirely new users with ontology figured out, at least the solid foundations of Absolute Infinity. How many people like that are quietly doing the work in the background, unlike us deadbeats gathered here shitposting every day?
But all such metrics are largely speculative at the end of the day. 

Edited 3 hours ago by LambdaDelta

[LambdaDelta]

Well well, looks like the current Pope ain't named Leo for nothing

[Leo Gura]

He trying to jack my gig?

Nobody out Leo's Leo.

Edited 2 hours ago by Leo Gura

[LambdaDelta]

21 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

He trying to jack my gig?

Nobody out Leo's Leo.

God found a new mouthpiece to preach from 🫡

[Leo Gura]

God can't replace God.

[VeganAwake]

The kingdom of heaven is already everything. Everything is already religion, it's just people don't see it!