Leo

[Monster Energy]

1 minute ago, Leo Gura said:

I mean the emotional and mental toll it takes to integrate such a depth of understanding.

Have you ever cried a river of tears? I’ve never experienced that myself

 

[PolyPeter]

2 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

You think someone comes to understand what I understand just cool-ly and gracefully?

not at all.

I know about the cosmic horror. not from a story somebody told me. direct experience, and I think you know part of my story.

what if I know exactly what you are talking about?

what if I know even more?

[PolyPeter]

10 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

I mean the emotional and mental toll it takes to integrate such a depth of understanding.

Of course. I wake up everyday knowing that humanity is just starting to know what the word ontology means.

The emotional and mental labor of being a human KNOWING the actual structure of the universe, makes it more difficult than just going about life surviving. But it is also a choice (the choice of understanding and integrating). You can choose to chill for sometime. or not. 

Edited 7 hours ago by PolyPeter

[Leo Gura]

9 minutes ago, Monster Energy said:

Have you ever cried a river of tears? I’ve never experienced that myself

That's a regular week. Haha

2 minutes ago, PolyPeter said:

You can choose to chill for sometime. or not. 

Not if you do it while running a business about it for 13 years straight.

Try running a business while you take 5-MeO-DMT 90 days in a row. See how that works out for ya.

[Leo Gura]

18 minutes ago, Xonas Pitfall said:

Do you think you’d ever consider sharing some of the more difficult or extreme health/events you’ve experienced during and due to psychedelics, enlightenment?

At some point. But it's challenging to talk about and people just end up making fun of me for being that open.

It is used against me by trolls.

People would be horrified if they understood the reality of this work. I have learned to share less intimate details because it will be misunderstood and used to villify me.

Edited 7 hours ago by Leo Gura

[Eskilon]

Its good that Leo said from the beginning that he could be full of shit, so this doesnt look too awful

Also I expect 100 plus replies from this thread, its gonna be gooood shiiiit

Lastly, I still want my infinite harem awakening

Edited 7 hours ago by Eskilon

[Xonas Pitfall]

5 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

At some point. But it's challenging to talk about and people just end up making fun of me for being that open.

It is used against me by trolls.

People would be horrified if they understood the reality of this work. I have learned to share less intimate details because it will be misunderstood and used to villify me.

Gocha. Really sorry to hear that. Thank you nonetheless for all that you did share, helped me personally to be a lot more cautious and smart with psychedelics when necessary. It's very much appreciated.

Edited 7 hours ago by Xonas Pitfall

[Hojo]

1 hour ago, Monster Energy said:

Have you ever cried a river of tears? I’ve never experienced that myself

 

When you get enlightened you will cry so hard. Crying is the mind disidentifying with someone. If you see God you will cry all your tears. The reason cry when they see God is they are disidentifying with something. Like if your mother dies, you are disidentifying with her when you cry.

When I see God I cried for 3 months. Crying is forgetting. You will also keep crying.

You will be like those weird enemies from advent children that keep crying.

God is so cool that its a coolness you will look at and start bawling. Have you ever seen something so cool it makes you cry in awe?

I have never assigned anything to be cooler than my avatar except God. Its so awesome you can help but completely dissolve yourself as a lame fuck.

Edited 6 hours ago by Hojo

[PolyPeter]

23 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Try running a business while you take 5-MeO-DMT 90 days in a row. See how that works out for ya.

I understand and respect your path, but you can own your decisions.

There is no reason to do a 90 day 5-meo mega trip, while also working as a human, this is a recepie for suffering.

Why not treat economic independence as part of the preparation, the outer set and setting, before diving into 90 days of the deepest inner work possible?

I also have a life as a human. And it has not been an easy life.

But I will never use my own personal drama as an argument against other people not knowing the depth of my awakenings

[UnbornTao]

1 hour ago, Inliytened1 said:

I am the only one awake here.  All of you have the Consciousness of ants compared to me.  Anyone who doubts this has no clue the depths of Consciousness accessed by me.  You can never grasp my deeper awakenings so I don't even bother explaining them here.  There are levels of Consciousness that would take you centuries of study and spiritual practice to even come close to the states Ive accessed.

In my deepest awakening I shit myself, lost 25 pounds, and walked through my bedroom wall.

Are you being sarcastic or not? 

[UnbornTao]

1 hour ago, Inliytened1 said:

@UnbornTao I think the bigger message is it doesn't matter.  His videos combined with spiritual practices and/or psychedelics can give you the ultimate realization that you are God and that all teachers were always you.  It was you teaching yourself. That's the take away. All this other stuff is just background noise.  Don't be distracted by it.

Too much nonsense to unpack here. 

Edited 6 hours ago by UnbornTao

[Leo Gura]

27 minutes ago, PolyPeter said:

I understand and respect your path, but you can own your decisions.

I do own my decisions.

I would not change what I did. It was all necessary.

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There is no reason to do a 90 day 5-meo mega trip, while also working as a human, this is a recepie for suffering.

Why not treat economic independence as part of the preparation, the outer set and setting, before diving into 90 days of the deepest inner work possible?

It was never about money. It is my responsiblity to access the deepest consciousness possible.

In 13 years I took a channel about simple self-help to a channel that teaches the deepest insights in existence. And I did this while being in the public spotlight and many people gaslighting me, constantly telling me misinformation and to stop.

This is what it took to do that and I don't regret it.

Edited 6 hours ago by Leo Gura

[PolyPeter]

14 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

This is what it took to do that and I don't regret it.

I never said anything about regret. Regret is backwards-looking. I'm talking about design.

And I genuinely respect what you built.

I'm building on top of it.

 

But "it was necessary" and "it was optimal" are different things.

16 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

I do own my decisions.

You can own a path completely and still notice that a cleaner design was possible. Those aren't contradictory.

 

The set and setting principle doesn't stop at the room and the music. It extends to the whole life container. You teach this.

I'm not saying you failed, nor saying that in your place I would have done anything different.

I'm saying you made it harder than it needed to be, and then used that difficulty as part of the narrative.

[PolyPeter]

21 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

It was never about money

And precisely because this was never about money, money should be handled first. As a prerequisite.

Not because it matters spiritually, but out of respect for the awakening itself.

You don't want the most profound work of your existence interrupted by human logistics.

[Leo Gura]

2 minutes ago, PolyPeter said:

You can own a path completely and still notice that a cleaner design was possible.

Lots of things are possible. But only one thing gets actualized.

I don't sit around crying over what was possible. The past is exactly one way, how it had to be.

[PolyPeter]

21 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

It is my responsiblity to access the deepest consciousness possible.

This is the most intriguing line to me.

Who assigned that responsibility? Did someone tell you? Is it written somewhere?

Or is it possible that this is a story you built around a very real and profound experience, and then elevated it to cosmic duty?

 

Because there's a difference between 'I felt called to go as deep as possible' and 'it is my responsibility.'

The first is honest. The second needs a source.

[Leo Gura]

5 minutes ago, PolyPeter said:

And precisely because this was never about money, money should be handled first. As a prerequisite.

Not because it matters spiritually, but out of respect for the awakening itself.

I always put consciousness over money.

I lost millions for that.

Edited 6 hours ago by Leo Gura

[PolyPeter]

2 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

I don't sit around crying over what was possible. The past is exactly one way, how it had to be.

Sure.

But you also make videos telling people how to do this better. If only one thing gets actualized and the past had to be exactly one way. what's the point of the advice?

You can't hold both. Either design matters, or it doesn't.

I think design matters.

That's why I'm pointing at it. not to make you cry over the past, but because you're still teaching people how to walk this path.

[PolyPeter]

3 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

I lost millions for that.

this is not a sad thing

it shows deep integrity

 

but, in order to study consciousness, you must first be able to function as a human body. Eating, sleeping, exercising, going out a bit.

why not also see money as a tool for getting the most out of your awakenings?

[Carl-Richard]

2 hours ago, PolyPeter said:

have you ever said something, in the past, and then learned that was not the way?

What was quoted here was quite consistent across time. In fact, I can remember he saying something similar two days or so ago (it's in some of the quotes). So is it something he said you have a problem with, or what?

Edited 5 hours ago by Carl-Richard