suicide consuquences

[James123]

21 hours ago, Franz_ said:

I’ve noticed that a lot of religions seem to say that if someone dies by suicide something worse happens than if they just die normally.

Like in Christianity people talk about going to hell, in Buddhism some people say it can lead to a worse rebirth, etc. or just rebirth

Do you think there’s actually some truth behind that? Or do you think religions mainly added those ideas to scare people away from doing it?

@Leo Gura just curious about what you and everyone here think about that

Because, mind is suffering. Mind is telling you to do it. Real death is not physical but mentally. Which is the surrendering the mind.

[Someone here]

1 hour ago, Willy Phallicus said:

It's the opposite - absolute consciousness and clarity. 

Well Im still here so that's not how it went. 

As I explained there is a weighing of options that plays out over several long minutes and with that aforementioned clarity I realize there is nowhere else I would rather be and I am already doing exactly what I want.  

I was suicidal in a serious way in the past and the only thing that stopped me is precisely the "weighing of options". You are not gonna decide the last moment..you gonna rush into it unconsciously. If you gonna stand there at the edge of a cliff  and logic with yourself about potential scenarios of afterlife and the fact that this life at least is known and understood to some degree whereas after death is completely and utterly unknown..then you literally can't do it . Unless it's nonstop chronic pain like a serious injury then if the intensity of the suffering is not more powerful than the fear of the unknown then you won't do it . People think they can suicide because of philosophical reasons and reading people like Emil Cioran or Albert Camus..that's a childish fantasy. 

I think everyone has the right to die peacefully with assistant suicide which is painless. It's their own right. Then again what we do want is to live in peace ..not die in peace.  But sometimes death seems more peaceful than life and sometimes the opposite.