Ralston's New Book - Whereof One Cannot Speak

[Inliytened1]

3 minutes ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

Heh heh heh - gotta rebrand & repackage it all so it can be sold in a new way for the dosh

😀😃

[bazera]

His method is meditating near babbling brooks 

[CARDOZZO]

4 minutes ago, bazera said:

His method is meditating near babbling brooks 

😂

[Leo Gura]

1 hour ago, bazera said:

His method is meditating near babbling brooks 

He believes meditation cannot produce enlightenment.

1 hour ago, CARDOZZO said:

If everything is Consciousness, why/how would a physical chemical pill outwitt "Consciousness Will" to make one enlightened? 

Since everything is Consciousness it can work however it wants.

If Consciousness wants licking your butthole to produce enlightenment, so it will be.

Obviously intense and long self-inquiry changes your state of consciousness, which produces awakenings. And so do psychedelics.

Edited 8 hours ago by Leo Gura

[bazera]

1 hour ago, Leo Gura said:

He believes meditation cannot produce enlightenment.

Yeah I know, he likes to joke about meditating on babbling brooks in his podcasts.

[AION]

3 hours ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

Heh heh heh - gotta rebrand & repackage it all so it can be sold in a new way for the dosh

All that rebranding and work for 10 years to get 6 usd per book 😁

[AION]

I bought the ebook and apparently it is on Kindle, but I don't have a Kindle. I have a pocketbook. There is no way to extract it from the Kindle platform so I get get the epub and put it on my pocketbook.

[bazera]

@AION

22 minutes ago, AION said:

I bought the ebook and apparently it is on Kindle, but I don't have a Kindle. I have a pocketbook. There is no way to extract it from the Kindle platform so I get get the epub and put it on my pocketbook.

It's less convenient but you could read from Amazon Kindle app on your phone.

I'm reading on my leptop from https://read.amazon.com/

[Natasha Tori Maru]

@AION heh heh I am mostly poking fun - Ralston is always worth it !

[AerisVahnEphelia]

I like ralston but he assume as much as he claim not doing it.

He shall drop the "you can live without story" that himself as become his most loved story.

of course he can't, his ego rely on teaching that nothing story is the Truth.

Here is an absolute: you're a slave of your body & conditionning, the good thing is, this signify and means nothing about the next frame of the movie.

Edited 5 hours ago by AerisVahnEphelia

[AION]

37 minutes ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

@AION heh heh I am mostly poking fun - Ralston is always worth it !

I was poking fun too

51 minutes ago, bazera said:

@AION

It's less convenient but you could read from Amazon Kindle app on your phone.

I'm reading on my leptop from https://read.amazon.com/

Nah,ereader is better for my eyes. I also upload to AI text to speech but I can't because I can't get the epub. 

Nowadays, I read and listen to the book at the same time. Retention and immersion is much greater this way.

[UnbornTao]

 

6 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

No, he means that there is literally no method to enlightenment.

No method can produce what he says, expect of course for his books, workshops, and contemplation.

But if you suggest anything other than his methods, they are all impossible.

Lol

Did you really have to resort to lying to defend your little position? 

I wouldn't assume you guys are talking about the same things at all, or doing the same work - or that you understand him lol.

That will be very misleading for people who can't tell the difference - which is apparently most. 

Edited 4 hours ago by UnbornTao

[Leo Gura]

Just now, UnbornTao said:

Did you really have to resort to lying to defend your little position?

I didn't lie. That is his position.

[UnbornTao]

1 minute ago, Leo Gura said:

I didn't lie. That is his position.

Oh, you did. "His" methods equally apply to the nature of this "direct" business. You probably already knew that, weren't paying enough attention, or deliberately misrepresented it to make your argument. 

Edited 4 hours ago by UnbornTao

[Leo Gura]

@UnbornTao Just reflecting his lie about "toad juice".

Edited 4 hours ago by Leo Gura

[UnbornTao]

Just now, Leo Gura said:

@UnbornTao Just reflecting his lie about "toad juice".

You think you understand him or Adi Da. I recommend you put down the salvia for a time. 

[Leo Gura]

Just now, UnbornTao said:

You think you understand him or Adi Da.

I understand beyond what they teach.

[UnbornTao]

Just now, Leo Gura said:

I understand beyond what they teach.

Shure you do, shure you do.

[CARDOZZO]

6 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

He believes meditation cannot produce enlightenment.

Since everything is Consciousness it can work however it wants.

If Consciousness wants licking your butthole to produce enlightenment, so it will be.

Obviously intense and long self-inquiry changes your state of consciousness, which produces awakenings. And so do psychedelics.

I think his point is that whatever you try as a method is only a road to Enlightenment. There are several roads but none of them can really "do it", only Consciousness itself.

If I get Ralston's perspective correctly, Psychedelics can be extremely effective to put you on a fastlane road but it can't produce enlightenment. 

[Leo Gura]

19 minutes ago, CARDOZZO said:

There are several roads but none of them can really "do it",

The entire line of argument is stupid, biased, misleading, and false.

DMT can produce more than enlightenment within 30 seconds. Not a single Ralston student will ever reach that level of consciousness in their lives.

Edited 1 hour ago by Leo Gura