Why nobody cares that the US is ruled by Israel?

[AION]

People don't care on this forum and outside of it Americans don't care either. They care about stupid stuff like football, money and material stuff. On this forum people care about spirituality but not about foreign country called Israel milking you dry and sending your troops to die for them. It is like some person invaded your home and raping your daughter like Epstein and sending your son to war for them and you just there with your DMT pipe not caring.

 

Edited 3 hours ago by AION

[Nivsch]

The operation to stop Iran invovles mostly arestrike forces and mainly Israeli ground agents. It is worth thinking sometimes about the good things that can come out of this for millions of people in Iran. 

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[zazen]

Check this: https://x.com/brianjberletic/status/2029494771585372603?s=46&t=DuLUbFRQFGpB8oo7PwRglQ

“ 🇺🇸🇮🇱The US is not Fighting Iran "For Israel" 

Western empire going back to Roman times sought control of the Middle East in pursuit of greater primacy. 

The British Empire sought control over the region in pursuit of GLOBAL primacy - and the US has simply picked up where the British left off. 

The US seeks primacy over the ENTIRE planet - the Middle East is part of the planet - thus the US seeks primacy over the Middle East as well as the Western Hemisphere, Europe, Africa, and Asia. 

Israel was a joint US-British creation as a means of facilitating this regional control just as both nations have created proxies around the globe throughout history up to and including now with nations like Ukraine, the island province of Taiwan, etc. 

The US seeks control over the Middle East to control its oil - specifically to deny it to China. This is a stated objective spanning years of policy papers. It also seeks to topple Iran as a member of the multipolar world as a means of whittling it down. 

If/When the US topples Iran it will then pivot to further encircling Russia and China. 

ALL of these conflicts are connected - including through the US strategy of using regional proxies to advance its interests. 

In Europe it is Ukraine, in the Middle East is it Israel, Jordan, and the Persian Gulf states, in Asia-Pacific it is the island province of Taiwan, Japan, and the Philippines. 

For those citing munition shortages and other symptoms of US imperial overreach during this current conflict as "proof" it is suffering instead at the expense of "Israel" - munition shortages and energy crises began with the US proxy war in Ukraine years earlier.

Some other facts: 

AIPAC spending is dwarfed by US arms manufacturing lobbying alone saying nothing of big-oil, big-pharma, big-tech etc.; 

Israel is entirely dependent on US arms, munitions, joint military industrial production, air and missile defenses, ISR, and both political and financial support - support that Israel would blow away in the wind without; 

Last year the US literally used Israel to trigger its war on Iran to absorb the blame and retaliation in full from the resulting conflict - as per US policy papers proposing doing so as early as 2009; 

This year Israel again absorbs the brunt of the retaliation - and thanks to useful idiots - sole blame for the conflict instead of Wall Street and Washington; 

IMPORTANT: Pointing this out does not somehow "defend Israel" or negate Israel's crimes any more than Ukraine being a US proxy negates its many and multiplying crimes. 

The US and its proxies are all guilty. 

It is important to hold EVERYONE involved in injustice accountable.

It is most important to deal with a global threat at its root and that root lies in Wall Street and Washington - not an artificially created country completely dependent on both.”

”It would really be like saying: 

“Ukraine controls the US! Look at how the US is running out of missiles to fight for Ukraine! Look at how many Ukrainians come to Washington! Zelensky spoke to Congress!!!" 

The US is backing Ukraine to cripple Russia the same way it backs Israel to cripple targeted nations in the Middle East the same way it is building up proxies in Asia-Pacific to target China. 

Separate your personal hate and emotions and see the big picture.”

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I’ve commented views similar to this weeks ago.

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[cistanche_enjoyer]

1 hour ago, Nivsch said:

It is worth thinking sometimes about the good things that can come out of this for millions of people in Iran. 

Like killing their children in elementary schools?

Or carpet bombing their densely populated cities?

Or radicalizing them to hate you even more?

The self-deception of Israelis is so cringe 😂

[AION]

2 hours ago, Nivsch said:

The operation to stop Iran invovles mostly arestrike forces and mainly Israeli ground agents. It is worth thinking sometimes about the good things that can come out of this for millions of people in Iran. 

The United States has provided Israel with over $300 billion (adjusted for inflation) in total economic and military assistance.

But this forum cares about stupid stuff like post rationality and shit. Like somebody is plundering your house stealing all your wealth and nobody cares.

Even Leo Gura, somebody who thinks he is a genius never talkd about this. Only shows what kind of snake oil seller he is. When somebody is robbing your house, one one doesn't talka bout philosophy. You first kick Epstein off of your daughter, tell your son he is not going to die for Israel, kick Jews out of your house and get your money back.

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[Rafael Thundercat]

41 minutes ago, AION said:

The United States has provided Israel with over $300 billion (adjusted for inflation) in total economic and military assistance.

But this forum cares about stupid stuff like post rationality and shit. Like somebody is plundering your house stealing all your wealth and nobody cares.

Even Leo Gura, somebody who thinks he is a genius never talkd about this. Only shows what kind of snake oil seller he is. When somebody is robbing your house, one one doesn't talka bout philosophy. You first kick Epstein off of your daughter, tell your son he is not going to die for Israel, kick Jews out of your house and get your money back.

I understand you, it came to mind other day that Leo may use his energy to the purpose that is fit to him. There is a lot o people that dedicate their lifes to understand and dismantle systems of oppression. Of course having  a mind as Leo engaged in this goal would be great. But is up to him. 

[Ramasta9]

When i said this stuff 20 years ago everyone called me a crazy conspiracy theorist, and yet most of the conspiracy theories i shared turned out to be true  

 

[Breakingthewall]

3 hours ago, zazen said:

The US seeks control over the Middle East to control its oil - specifically to deny it to China.

China is the main buyer of oil from Saudi Arabia and Iraq, which are allegedly controlled by the US.

3 hours ago, zazen said:

If/When the US topples Iran it will then pivot to further encircling Russia and China. 

EEUU depends of China. The US seeks to contain China, not ruin it. By outsourcing its industry, the US has fostered China's rise, but now risks a total crisis. China, on the other hand, doesn't want a collapsed US or a Europe mired in poverty; it wants balance. The future is china and US know it, but US have to protect it's place as a power as long as is possible, just because it's better for US. 

3 hours ago, zazen said:

IMPORTANT: Pointing this out does not somehow "defend Israel" or negate Israel's crimes any more than Ukraine being a US proxy negates its many and multiplying crimes. 

The US and its proxies are all guilty. 

It is important to hold EVERYONE involved in injustice accountable.

Shit , so bad , the evil America Satan against the pure goodness of Russia, china and irán . Who will win? The forces of darkness, those evil Jews, or the light? The ayatollahs and Russia. We hope the light, like the Soviet union that enlightened the world and full of happiness and fullness great part of Europe. Let's see if we are lucky and the light wins. 

3 hours ago, zazen said:

The US is backing Ukraine to cripple Russia the same way it backs Israel to cripple targeted nations in the Middle East the same way it is building up proxies in Asia-Pacific to target China. 

All agents play their own game. Everyone tries to achieve their objectives. Fair play is more or less like it is on the African savanna. Luckily, nukes exist, and total war wouldn't benefit anyone; otherwise, it would be constant. Dividing the world between light ewoks and the dark empire is a rather narrow view.

[RareGodzilla]

@AION People like Leo sometimes live in a bit of a echochamber. It's easy to focus on philosophy when your material needs are taken care off, regardless of how much you work in a week. If you're flipping burgers and your healthcare gets cut because Israel needs another war it's a differnet story.

But in a way we're all living in an echochamber. Imagine being a schoolgirl that get's bombed and becomes handicaped. For people of Iran this is going to be hell. Just like in Afganistan, it will make it so that the most ruthless leaders come out on top.

[Willy Phallicus]

Why would I waste my time worrying about this?

[AION]

1 hour ago, Rafael Thundercat said:

I understand you, it came to mind other day that Leo may use his energy to the purpose that is fit to him. There is a lot o people that dedicate their lifes to understand and dismantle systems of oppression. Of course having  a mind as Leo engaged in this goal would be great. But is up to him. 

He never talks about the elephant in the room. Either he just doesn’t see it or he sees it and just pretends like it is not there. Either way it is very bothersome that he talks about such deep topics on a social level but doesn’t address the main problem.  Leo is not sharp anymore. Nowadays all he does is praise his own massive inflated ego. This is not a matter of choice but a matter of integrity. Americans are literally getting raped by Epstein and boys send to die for Israeli wars. 

[Willy Phallicus]

Maybe Leo has bigger fish to fry than what's going on in the external world of man.

What is Leo talking about it going to accomplish?  Plenty of talking heads are talking about this and have been for decades despite some of the consequences and what has that done?

[UnbornTao]

The name @Willy Phallicus , poetic!

[AION]

32 minutes ago, Willy Phallicus said:

Maybe Leo has bigger fish to fry than what's going on in the external world of man.

What is Leo talking about it going to accomplish?  Plenty of talking heads are talking about this and have been for decades despite some of the consequences and what has that done?

What bigger fish? He made political videos. He could have addressed it in those videos. 
if Leo has bigger fish to fry he shouldn’t talk about politics but if he talks about politics he can’t ignore the elephant in the room. If he does he is either a sell out or he is just not that bright as he claims. 

 

[Willy Phallicus]

Maybe he recently got wise and figured out politics is show biz for ugly people and voting is a profane indulgence and decided the distraction wasn't worth his sanity and energy anymore.  I don't know, I can't speak for him.

Pretty sure I heard him say playing the blame game is stupid so maybe he's taking his own advice.