Declining birth rate

[enchanted]

Is  declining  birth rates the biggest problem humanity  faces? A species that doesn't  replace itself can't survive right?  Declining birth rates might be a bigger problem than climate change or war and might actually be the real case for allowing high levels of immigration, something that politicians and citizens don't want to admit. But what if the immigrants also turn into a culture who aren't interested in family life and start having less kids?

Does anyone know what causes declining birth rates? And what are some possible solutions? How come more people aren't talking about this?

Edited Wednesday at 07:11 PM by enchanted

[NewKidOnTheBlock]

There are no solutions I think. Burden of consciousness and complexity is too heavy to bear and people don't want to pass it down onto another generations; they are far too distracted to even attempt to do so. Entropy is winning LOL

[Spiral]

It’s a societal issue. You can think of societies as creatures, some dominate others are sickly and weak. 

Demographic collapse is like the disease that kills a society, after all societies typically last 250 years. 

We are overdue and it will get messy, but better times lay ahead.

It’s a disaster for the people who live today but not for our species as a whole.

[Lila9]

Short answer: patriarchy.

Longer answer: society punishes motherhood, underestimates it, and underappreciates it. There is no incentive to be a mother, only cons.

It takes a village to raise a child. But now one woman is expected to do it alone, in addition to working in a regular job. 

 

[enchanted]

3 hours ago, Lila9 said:

Short answer: patriarchy.

Longer answer: society punishes motherhood, underestimates it, and underappreciates it. There is no incentive to be a mother, only cons.

It takes a village to raise a child. But now one woman is expected to do it alone, in addition to working in a regular job. 

 

The patriarchy might be one reason but then how does it explain Africa and the middle East where there is more patriarchy and very high birth rates?  And Iceland, a country with the most gender equality, still have low birth rates below replacement?

Edited 4 hours ago by enchanted

[Ramasta9]

Keep those epstein Jabs up then complain about infertility  

[Natasha Tori Maru]

Pay woman a wage to raise and have kids.

It's a risk to our bodies and a full time job to raise a child to adulthood. And do it WELL. Which isn't happening.

This would also stop women feeling so unsafe; they wouldn't be trapped in fear not having a living wage and being beholden to just their husbands earnings.

I'm telling ya, there are a TON of women who would love to do this, but cannot. 

[aurum]

58 minutes ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

Pay woman a wage to raise and have kids.

It's a risk to our bodies and a full time job to raise a child to adulthood. And do it WELL. Which isn't happening.

This would also stop women feeling so unsafe; they wouldn't be trapped in fear not having a living wage and being beholden to just their husbands earnings.

I'm telling ya, there are a TON of women who would love to do this, but cannot. 

Careful though.

Once you socialize motherhood, that opens up a whole can of worms. It's an increase in blurring the lines between private and public life. There will be serious tradeoffs, like additional regulations and politicization around parenting.

Mothers need support. But how much role the state should play is not an easy question.

[Natasha Tori Maru]

Just now, aurum said:

Careful though.

Once you socialize motherhood, that opens up a whole can of worms. It's an increase in blurring the lines between private and public life. There will be serious tradeoffs, like additional regulations and politicization around parenting.

Mothers need support. But how much role the state should play is not an easy question.

Oh yeah, I agree there are problems it will introduce for sure. Workers are becoming the commodity - and women are opting out of helping with that supply. 

I can already foresee parenting need to be done in a certain, acceptable WAY as dictated by an external body. 

In my mind it would be a quick fix that would instantly boost birthdates - even if temporarily so we can re-establish stability of population.

The new set of problems it would introduce would need to be addressed.

[aurum]

5 minutes ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

In my mind it would be a quick fix that would instantly boost birthdates - even if temporarily so we can re-establish stability of population.

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