New Episode: Epistemic Responsiblity - Out Now!

[Cred]

I'm proposing a new core practice of self-actualization that is complementary to the existing ones: Waking up, growing up, cleanign up, showing up, (opening up, stepping up)

I call this "glowing up".

It means becoming precisely aware of ones perculiar wiring and integrating this knowledge into the other practices. It includes the notion that saying "I have unique genetics" is not enough for true self acceptance and therefore self-actualization.

[Terell Kirby]

When i first saw this episode posted, my first thought is that its a rehash of the same thing Leo has been teaching for years.

As I listen to it a second time, this is probably one of the best episodes in recent months ... it hits different for some reason.

Mastering epistemic responsibility is truly foundation ... there is no sovereignty of mind/intellect without it.

Edited 10 hours ago by Terell Kirby

[PenguinPablo]

@Cred Also what I'm realizing is I'm probably Aspergers.

Upside to it is that nothing has fucking worked for me. 

There is hardly a safety net which neurotypicals get by simply being themselves.

Relationships, jobs, socializing... It all just happens. Not saying they don't work hard and have there struggles.

But for me everything has been damn near impossible. The amount of obsession and dedicated time I've put towards GAME and social skills development to the expense of the rest of my life is rare. 

Ultimately the result Is say is highly developed philosophical and spiritual qualities... Because I have almost nothing to hide behind. 

But of course there's other areas where I struggle to sustain a basic level of competence. 

[Sincerity]

21 hours ago, AION said:

I think it gave a educated response. Better response than you would get from most people. Which part you didn't agree with?

I don’t read AI responses. Unless I’m working with an AI myself.

Do you read AI opinions when someone else posts them?

[Rafael Thundercat]

I am rewatching the episode on Not Knowing and realizing that I am posturing many things as known when I actually dont know. It feels that knowing is a sort of mechanism to avoid the fear of not knowing. Is like when you meet someone, one starts trying to gather information as soon as possible about the person in order to feel a sense of security, because to interact not knowing something about who is in front of you is subtly scary, who knows who is this person in front of you? Maybe a psyco and one wish to fill the gap knowing something about him or her very fast. We do this with reality all the time, trying to fake we know it all, avoiding with all costs living in not knowing. 

[Cred]

@PenguinPablo @Leo Gura Have you tried tracking down autistic girls with similar special interests as you?

What you need to understand is that the rules of dating change completely when you are non-symbolic.

First, you need to stop trying to make symbol-oriented people (normies, conformists) like you. They will always think that something is off about you no matter how hard you try to mask.

Learning "game" is only going to cause you to mask more and as a result cause extreme suffering that can't be cured with any spirituality. The only cure is learning to live true to your neurodivergency which I call "glowing up".

What you need to start doing is tracking down other non-symbolic (non-conformist) people. This is not trivial since they usually isolate just as much as you, however they do have the same amount of desire for connection, they just prefer a less in quantity but deeper connections in contrast to symbolic people.

The reason why symbol oriented people socialize so much is because their relationships are shallow, simple and based in small talk and affirmations. These kinds of interactions cost next to no energy, which is why they seem to have unlimited social batteries. (However, when non-symbolic people try to emulate these kinds of relationships, they expend a ton of energy because their brain is not wired for this symbolic processing.)

If you date a symbolic person you will suffer because every one of their relationships is symbolic in nature and therefore shallow. It is impossible for you to become truly intimate with a purely symbolic person if you are non-symbolic.

This is the underlying reason for the notion of "I have realized that women can never truly satisfy me". If you are non-symbolic, and you have only ever dated symbolic people (or been in ambiguous relationships with someone who is non-symbolic), you develop a heartbreaking outlook on intimacy.

Non-symbolic people are capable to have way deeper relationships but the price they have to pay is that because their relationships are so intense, if they had as many relationships as symbolic people, they would be overwhelmed.

This does not mean that symbolic people aren't capable of intimacy, it just means, they have a symbolic, interpretative, implicit view of intimacy.

It is almost painful how easy it is to connect with and fall in love with someone who is also non-symbolic. It is also painfully easy to make someone who is non-symbolic fall in love with you. If you are both autistic and are both interested in each other's special interests, you already have established intimacy since sharing ideas is intimacy for autistic people.

So when you know how to find and identify them, getting a cute non-symbolic girl to be interested in you is extremely easy.

There is one more important thing you need to understand though. You need to read the rest of the post very carefully now. The thing is, there might very well be already someone like this in your life that fits all the criteria. However, you might not have considered her yet since "she seems to not give you signals" or something.

The important thing to understand is that being non-symbolic means not being able to recognize and give signals. It also means being unsure about the status of the relationship. This uncertainty can turn your life into hell for long periods of time and literally lead you into a mental hospital if you are not careful. I'm speaking of experience (didn't happen to me).

For a non-symbolic person, determining the status of a relationship (friend or romantic relationship etc.) is extremely hard. When they are intimate with someone who is non-symbolic, they don't see this threshold of "still friendship", "romantic relationship". What this means is that it is not rarely the case that two autistic people can be in love with each other and nothing happens because they both don't understand what needs to happen in order for the relationship to become serious, because both are unable to understand each other's signals.

So when dealing with non-symbolic people, be careful of thoughts like "I hope they understand my signals". Because the answer will almost always be no. The tragic thing is that she might do the same and send you signals that you don't understand. This scenario is just tragic and might lead to both of you ending up in a mental hospital because of mutually obsessive limerance I'm not even joking.

When dealing with non-symbolic people, BEING EXPLICIT is your friend. If you are interested, TELL THEM. If you want clarity over the status of the relationship ASK THEM EXPLICITLY. Otherwise, they will never know and even get the chance to fall in love with you since if you only send signals they don't pick up on, they will think "I'm sad that he seems to not be interested in me".

One last thing: The reason why non-symbolic people don't have the idea to be explicit in the first place even though it can save you so much trouble in life, you can't even imagine it (literally all it takes to have a happy ever after is to tell someone non-symbolic you know that you are interested who just simply hasn't considered you as a romantic partner yet and is open to it and happy about you are being explicit. Often all it takes is giving them something explicit to get their gears turning.) is because symbolic people are often confused and irritated when given explicit information.

Non-symbolic people will rarely judge you for being explicit. Quite the contrary. For them, explicit information is like a raft in an endless ambiguous sea of symbols and implicit information. 

Edited 38 minutes ago by Cred

[PenguinPablo]

@Cred 

It's also a very Buddhist or monastic trait in general... it is echoed throughout Christianity as well.  The notion that your satisfaction cannot depend on this world so to speak. To me it's laughable when I see a couple of questionable integrity and maturity partnership disappointed when they invariants disappoint each other through adultery or some other form of betrayal. Like come on, you couldn't see that one a mile away? Do you walk around blind? 

Edited 17 minutes ago by PenguinPablo