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7 hours ago, Jodistrict said:

According to one game theory analysis, Trump is going to eventually put ground troops in Iran.  It seems plausible.  Trump is reckless and desperate and Israeli will eventually trick him into it.  Iran can’t be defeated by airpower. 

When this happens, everything changes.  The troop numbers will quickly escalate and there will be a draft.  This time next year, many on this forum could be fighting and dying in Iran.  This generation is going to get an opportunity to see what the Vietnam war was all about and why it changed society forever.  I also believe the reason Trump threatened to make Canada a 51st state was to give Canada heads-up that this time they won’t be allowed to accept draft dodgers.

 

The war on Iran is not popular enough in the U.S.. The Democrats alone are probably going to block funding for the war.

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51 minutes ago, Raze said:

you lack capacity to grasp them so you revert to caricatures, straw men and dumb sarcasm.

2 hours ago, Nivsch said:

 

Caricatures like you, you mean? No, I was talking about something common but not so exaggerated.

Anyway, be happy in your noble crusade. 

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8 hours ago, Jodistrict said:

According to one game theory analysis, Trump is going to eventually put ground troops in Iran.  It seems plausible.  Trump is reckless and desperate and Israeli will eventually trick him into it.  Iran can’t be defeated by airpower. 

When this happens, everything changes.  The troop numbers will quickly escalate and there will be a draft.  This time next year, many on this forum could be fighting and dying in Iran.  This generation is going to get an opportunity to see what the Vietnam war was all about and why it changed society forever.  I also believe the reason Trump threatened to make Canada a 51st state was to give Canada heads-up that this time they won’t be allowed to accept draft dodgers.

 

Do you honestly think that there is enough political will in the US for a draft to be successfull? Or in any western country for that matter? Not meant in a confrontational way but it just feels implausible to me. This is not like the WW2 whatsoever, or even like Iraq war when public had been massaged with propaganda for 2+ years before Iraq was attacked. I don't think it's a stretch at all to say that majority of people in the US now think Trump is an idiot and the war is utterly stupid and meaningless. I kind of feel like it would be a better scenario because at least these idiots wouldn't use nukes. And absolute majority of people would be trying their best to dodge draft. There's no way they'd pull this off


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All this talk about whether Zionists are good or bad is yet another diversionionary and irrelevant distraction.  For the sake of argument lets just assume that they are good.  You know what?  It is irrelevant.

The relevant issue is  that under International law and the UN Charter, force can only used used in self-defense against an “armed attack” or an “imminent threat”.

Intelligent officials have asserted there is no evidence that Iran posed an imminent threat to the U.S. homeland or its forces prior to the strikes.   Legal scholars classify this as a “crime of aggression”.

Also, for everyone here, a more important issue is your standard of living is going to be dramatically reduced and you may actually be forced under threat of imprisonment to fight in an illegal war.  

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The French navy is now in position to be blown up. And Iranian agents busted in UK. Prepare for fireworks, Europe.

 

 

Cyprus Mail

https://cyprus-mail.com

Strava upload reveals location of French warship off Cyprus coast

7 hours ago — The location of the French military aircraft carrier Charles de Gaulle, which had been located off the Limassol coast earlier this week, 

 

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2026/mar/20/two-people-arrested-after-trying-to-enter-faslane-nuclear-base

 

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8 hours ago, Breakingthewall said:

It's instructive because it reflects the way the entire European left thinks. I know many people who think like this, ordinary people with ordinary jobs, who approve of the October 8th massacre, and if you raise any objection, they turn red with anger and start saying that Jews are a nation of murderers and that Israel is doing exactly what Hitler did and it must disappear. It's very interesting to try to understand that psychology. 

If, for example, you tell them that the Iranian regime has killed tens of thousands of protesters, they'll say it's disinformation, and that most of them were Mossad agents carrying weapons. This is because they have an absolute psychological need to organize the world into servants of light and servants of darkness, like in fantasy novels, Lord of the Rings, Star Wars. It doesn't matter if they're 16 or 50 years old, they need to remain at that level.

Everything revolves around the emotional release that a stimulus produces. And they've internalized that jews are evil, jews that devour babies on remote islands and that dominate the world by enriching themselves with the blood of the worker.

Thankfully, there are still brave Palestinian warriors who stand up to them, and heroic ayatollahs who will give them what they deserve. They even spend their time producing videos where Israel is bombed and devastated, happy that good triumphs over absolute evil.

The point is that people are like children. His entire narrative can be translated as: I need to feel like a good guy and blame the evil people for my shortcomings. That worked very well for Uncle Adolf back in the day; it's a primitive and effective strategy. Let's unite, noble souls, against evil. Paradoxically, it's always the other way around: the wicked unite against a scapegoat.

I appreciate your nuanced and critical thinking. It is weird that people paint it as absolute evil vs. absolute good.

There is a mob on the far right and on the far left that is heavily brainwashed by the algorithm and various antisemitic conspiracy theories. This is a lost case.

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Just now, Elliott said:

No one does that, quit lying. No one likes the Ayatollahs. 

Really? Then why so triggered?

 


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@Raze In many cases, what looks like mistreatment towards Palestinians is actually tied to security considerations that have to be taken constantly into account in the current reality.

This is why I can't buy the exaggerated one-sided story fueled by various external sources. 

Surely there are other cases in which the power is being abused.

At the same time, this does not negate the existence of occupation, mistreatment, or elements of religious superiority.

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🏔 Spiral dynamics can be limited, or it can be unlimited if one's development is constantly reflected in its interpretation.

 

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16 minutes ago, Nivsch said:

@Raze In many cases, what looks like mistreatment towards Palestinians is actually tied to security considerations that have to be taken constantly into account in the current reality.

This is why I can't buy the exaggerated one-sided story fueled by various external sources. 

Surely there are other cases in which the power is being abused.

At the same time, this does not negate the existence of occupation, mistreatment, or elements of religious superiority.

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1 hour ago, Lila9 said:

I appreciate your nuanced and critical thinking. It is weird that people paint it as absolute evil vs. absolute good.

There is a mob on the far right and on the far left that is heavily brainwashed by the algorithm and various antisemitic conspiracy theories. This is a lost case.

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I think the far left is probably more just anti genocide, rather than actually anti semetic.

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40 minutes ago, Elliott said:

Quit lying

Quit being an idiot. Grow up, and stop quoting me.


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20 minutes ago, Wilhelm44 said:

I think the far left is probably more just anti genocide, rather than actually anti semetic.

Is it anti-genocidal when non-Jews commit genocide (Sudan, Myanmar, Ethiopia, China, Congo)? Oddly enough they are very quiet about it.


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Is anti semitism in the room with us?

 

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15 minutes ago, Lila9 said:

Is it anti-genocidal when non-Jews commit genocide (Sudan, Myanmar, Ethiopia, China, Congo)? Oddly enough they are very quiet about it.

Most of the West don't give a shit about what's happening in Africa. Point still stands, being anti genocide don't make you anti semetic. What is a bit strange though is that a significant majority of the Israeli population don't see Gaza as a type of genocide. Me thinks many are still in denial, understandably so.

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21 minutes ago, Wilhelm44 said:

Most of the West don't give a shit about what's happening in Africa.

Sadly also not about what's happening in Iran, apparently.

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6 minutes ago, Nivsch said:

Sadly also not about what's happening in Iran apparently.

You somehow managed to sidestep my main point in that previous paragraph. I am curious, as someone living in Israel, what is your current view on what happened in Gaza ?

(I take it you are talking about how the Iranian government are treating their people. Yeah they are monsters. My wife's parents still live in Tehran. Most people there want this government out. I think the anti war sentiment from the left is not so much about not caring about Iran, as it is about being concerned about Trump's utter lawlessness. Seems like a lot of suffering is on the way. Which means that some really good changes will also be on their way.)

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