Which practice works best for you?

[JoshB]

I'm curious what methods you guys have used to awaken and how it helped you.As well as to help narrow them down and catalog them. As I and many others have spent so much time doing practice that feels repetitive boring leading no where. 

Obviously psychedelics are the number 1 tool but its not realistic to be tripping every waking hour. 

Here's my go to list 

1: Shinzen Youngs do Nothing technique. This is my most used practice and is where the bulk of sober development has come from. Its simple, effective, and can be done anywhere anytime. 

2: Vispassana body scanning. Deconstructing disidentifying the body into awareness has lowered survival standards for me drastically. 

3: Concentration. This has really helped me collapse epistemology into metaphysics resulting in way more construct awareness as it helps reflect awareness back on itself. Really collapsing concept into being. 

 

[theleelajoker]

2 minutes ago, JoshB said:

I'm curious what methods you guys have used to awaken and how it helped you.As well as to help narrow them down and catalog them. As I and many others have spent so much time doing practice that feels repetitive boring leading no where. 

Obviously psychedelics are the number 1 tool but its not realistic to be tripping every waking hour. 

Here's my go to list 

1: Shinzen Youngs do Nothing technique. This is my most used practice and is where the bulk of sober development has come from. Its simple, effective, and can be done anywhere anytime. 

2: Vispassana body scanning. Deconstructing disidentifying the body into awareness has lowered survival standards for me drastically. 

3: Concentration. This has really helped me collapse epistemology into metaphysics resulting in way more construct awareness as it helps reflect awareness back on itself. Really collapsing concept into being. 

 

Approx:

1.Vipassana 

2. Do nothing meditation 

3. Psychedelics including weed 

4. Fasting 

5. Focused communication with others as the interconnections become clear, the fact that there is an universal mind 

 

[JoshB]

Oh and doing not knowing contemplation 

Where I just sit and actively deconstruct everything I know. With the main goal just being and sitting in Not Knowing 

[Oppositionless]

My daily driver is kriya yoga, but taking Av Neryah's advice I immediately follow my kriya with do nothing meditation. 
In addition I do:

yoga nidra (body scan heavy)

hatha yoga 

tai chi / qigong

I also went on a 7 day zen retreat (sesshin) and intend to go on another.

The tai chi has a big effect on my kriya practice. I find it moves the energies raised by the breathwork very effectively .

I also created elaborate metaphysical systems using logic, many many hours of that.

I did a lot of 5 meo dmt over the course of two months and it led to me spontaneously doing all the spiritual practices I mentioned.

[UnbornTao]

Good thread.

Contemplation, essentially. That's the practice aimed at discovering the truth, in one form or another.

But it depends on what you mean by awakening. 

Hmm...

[JoshB]

15 minutes ago, UnbornTao said:

Good thread.

Contemplation, essentially. That's the practice aimed at discovering the truth, in one form or another.

But it depends on what you mean by awakening. 

Hmm...

Becoming concious of what Conciousness / Absolute Truth,  is the only Awakening im concerned with 

[Oppositionless]

I think a lot of contemplation can lead to an awakening if the intellect, which is good- a lot of gurus don't have that, but ultimately to raise your baseline state of consciousness and see God requires a discipline of meditation and maybe some other stuff (like breathwork, yoga, etc).

Edited 1 hour ago by Oppositionless

[bazera]

@Oppositionless So you didn't do practices, and started doing them after 5-meo trips? Is that correct?

Or you're saying that those trips supercharged your practices?

[UnbornTao]

14 minutes ago, JoshB said:

Becoming concious of what Conciousness / Absolute Truth,  is the only Awakening im concerned with 

Got it.

Edited 49 minutes ago by UnbornTao

[Oppositionless]

@bazera I was doing very unfocused and sporadic practice before the 5 meo. Except contemplation , I have ocd and was doing too much of that. The 5 meo led to a spontaneous desire to do a lot of practices, yes. I became very disciplined about meditation and kriya. Whether it supercharged them I'm not sure, I had some weird experiences for sure, which settled down approximately a month after my last trip.

[bazera]

@Oppositionless I'm in the same position, have been doing meditation and kriya very sporadicaly and unfocused and getting nowhere because of that. I was thinking that trying some psychedelics would excite me to focus on them harder.

Why do you think trips led to a desire to practice more focused? You saw the potential?

[Oppositionless]

12 minutes ago, bazera said:

Why do you think trips led to a desire to practice more focused? You saw the potential?

Indeed. It felt so good not having any monkey mind , twice a week for two months, that I basically reoriented my entire life around making that my baseline.

That's not to say I don't get discouraged. I'm well aware that after a year of practice I probably will have only raised my baseline by less than 1%. But I still know it's worth it.

Edited 23 minutes ago by Oppositionless

[bazera]

@Oppositionless Was 5meo your first exposure to psychedelics? Have you tried LSD or mushrooms before that?

So my question is did 5meo do that motivation thing exclusively or it's just a psychedelic thing in general.

Edited 1 minute ago by bazera