If you are introverted, you need less status and money to have a happy life

[Joseph Maynor]

10 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

They are all necessary for survival but health is first- then finances, then relationships.  The ego often ignores health and goes for power and relations often comes with power.  You can't be isolated and have power.  You have to rule over someone.

Relationships can come from friendship not power necessarily.

[Joseph Maynor]

23 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

They are all necessary for survival but health is first- then finances, then relationships.  The ego often ignores health and goes for power and relations often comes with power.  You can't be isolated and have power.  You have to rule over someone.

I disagree with this.  I think the ego ignores relationships due to selfishness and focuses on health and finances deficits being a result of lack of social support or social alignment, and then blames others for not having more social or relationship abundance.  Anyway, we may disagree here and I'm fine with it.  Good to have a contrary point of view to consider.

[Inliytened1]

15 minutes ago, Joseph Maynor said:

Relationships can come from friendship not power necessarily.

Everyone needs something.  Just keep that in mind.  That is the OP's point i think. 

[Joseph Maynor]

30 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

Everyone needs something.  Just keep that in mind.  That is the OP's point i think. 

The OP's question is how much socialization do I need?  

[Inliytened1]

17 minutes ago, Joseph Maynor said:

The OP's question is how much socialization do I need?  

Right so the question is do people socialize for an egoic gain or do they just do it.   In ALL cases it's has egoic gain in some way.  Even if its just to not be alone. Nothing wrong with that but you can see where it can lead.  

Edited Saturday at 06:38 AM by Inliytened1

[Joseph Maynor]

6 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

Right so the question is do people socialize for an egoic gain or do they just do it.   In ALL cases it's has egoic gain in some way.  Even if its just to not be alone. Nothing wrong with that but you can see where it can lead.  

That's the question.  And IMO this is why getting clear on what friendship means is so crucial.  When there's no friendship (or a false pretense of one on either side) -- exploitation can happen.  Most of us have no idea what friendship means, and so we default to living alone and paranoid and unhappy with our current relationships.

[Inliytened1]

9 minutes ago, Joseph Maynor said:

That's the question.  And IMO this is why getting clear on what friendship means is so crucial.  When there's no friendship (or a false pretense of one on either side) -- exploitation can happen.  Most of us have no idea what friendship means, and so we default to living alone and paranoid and unhappy with our current relationships.

Yes.  True friendship is actually invaluable.  Invaluable.  Because it takes both parties wanting nothing more than the love for one another.

That's friendship and its hard to come by. 

[Eskilon]

10 hours ago, Inliytened1 said:

Does this mean the wiser play the game less?  

Hmm, that's a good question. 

I think the wiser plays the game with more intensity because he tends to be more aware and involved in the things he does. 

But also, he enjoys simply being too. 

The wiser enjoys the game more because he tends to suffer way less. Even though the path to wisdom involves a lot of suffering.

Edited Saturday at 03:54 PM by Eskilon

[Eskilon]

9 hours ago, Inliytened1 said:

 In ALL cases it's has egoic gain in some way.  Even if its just to not be alone. Nothing wrong with that but you can see where it can lead.  

Yes, pretty much all socialization is based on egoic gain in my view. There's moments where true socialization happen when you are just there with no apparent reason but those moments are rare and usually the person must be really mature and lived.

Edited Saturday at 03:58 PM by Eskilon

[Eskilon]

@Joseph Maynor The order of priority in life is like this: First Health, then finances, then relationships.

Self first, others second.

Edited Saturday at 04:04 PM by Eskilon

[Joseph Maynor]

On 2/7/2026 at 8:03 AM, Eskilon said:

@Joseph Maynor The order of priority in life is like this: First Health, then finances, then relationships.

Self first, others second.

This is what is conventionally thought, yes.  

[Inliytened1]

2 hours ago, Joseph Maynor said:

This is what is conventionally thought, yes.  

I think you brought up a good point.   Friendship shouldn't be completely lost as a possibility just because all of us are selfish.  Selflessness still is possible and thus friendship is still possible. But its rare.