Psychedelics & schizophrenia?

[Karla]

My sister, who was diagnosed with schizophrenia 15 years ago, asked me about psychedelics that might help her earlier and I was floored. She’s never been interested before so, I thought that was interesting.

I know there are some shamans that work with individuals that have severe mental health struggles but just wondering how people do afterwards and if they have any relief.

I would be curious to know what psychedelics they worked with, how the experience was and if they had any improvement or shifts following. 

[thierry]

 

I don’t think that’s a good idea. Psychedelics are really the opposite of what your sister needs, unless she wants to indulge in madness, which could be interesting but very very dangerous. 
To your sister every psychedelic is potentially salvia.

The only drugs that are safe for her are benzos.

And even then, only occasionally.

 

 

[Michal__]

I am diagnosed with schizophrenia and I take psychedelics with no adverse effects.

[Leo Gura]

There can't be a one-size-fits-all answer on this issue.

Some schizo people will benefit from psychedelics and some will go nuts. You won't predict which until you try it.

Very small doses could be used to test the waters, but of course this is risky if she goes overboard with it. I would not want to be responsible for giving schizos psychedelics because you never know how bad it might get.

Edited 18 hours ago by Leo Gura

[Hojo]

It can show you how your schizophrenia works. Id say 90 percent of society has it. If you learn about what it is you can see it everywhere just via speech. I can tell someone has it by talking to them.

Edited 18 hours ago by Hojo

[mmKay]

You can have all the necessary tools and equipment for a mountain trip ( backpack , shoes, provisions, map...) but if your health plays tricks on you, nothing will save you.

Necessary tools for a delic' trip are: acurrate epistemology, state, intention, setting and of course, good genetics and stable or healthy mind.

The more unhinged you are the exponentially more likely it is that you will have a bad trip or you're going to delude yourself in the aftermath.

 

 

Outside of schizophrenia, how does she rank on the essentials? Is she stable and grounded? How is her mental health? 

Edited 7 hours ago by mmKay

[Hojo]

Psychedelic will shut off the default node network where schizophrenia is working from.  If they have it and aren't reacting it can be a godsend. If they are already acting on the delusions it might make it worse when the network comes back online.

Here is an easy way to pretend you are schizophrenic. Pretend the voice in your head isn't inside your head its outside your head in the field in front of you talking and everyone can hear it.

Edited 4 hours ago by Hojo

[Joseph Maynor]

I'm not sure.  This seems like a complete chasm in the way reality is interpreted.  I don't think there's any fix through substances for this.  I hate to say this but on some level it's deeper than substances one could or would ingest.  This is an attempt to try to fix these people, but they are who they are.  There's a delicate balance here.  You have to examine your motives too.  E.g., The attempt to fix someone or teach someone.  

Edited 1 hour ago by Joseph Maynor