Is Love the Answer?

[joeyi99]

I’m convinced more than ever that the maximization of love is the point of life. 
 

Call it a platitude or whatever but it’s the truth. 
 

Now the question is it even possible in practice to love and be loved from humans. Those who’ve attempted to love unconditionally get stepped on in the end.

 

[Someone here]

35 minutes ago, joeyi99 said:

Now the question is it even possible in practice to love and be loved from humans. Those who’ve attempted to love unconditionally get stepped on in the end.

Notice what you're doing ..in the first sentence you're saying loving between humans which is obviously not what unconditional love means(obviously it includes that but also much broader). 

There is a catch for unconditional love which is survival .if you love unconditionally you die..cause you can't love hunger and thirst right ? That's essentially what you mean by getting stepped on if you love unconditionally. So It depends on your journey and priorities and maturity in life..I do intuitively know that the way to go is full on Christ mode live in a cave chilling out on consciousness lol..but bro wants to burn through some karma apparently 😁

Edited Monday at 11:23 AM by Someone here

[Davino]

@joeyi99 Yes Love is the point of life and existence

53 minutes ago, joeyi99 said:

Now the question is it even possible in practice to love and be loved from humans. Those who’ve attempted to love unconditionally get stepped on in the end.

And you wouldn't love to get stepped right? 

There are two avenues for walking the Love:

Taking Love to the end and dying on the cross, forgiving those who torture you and blessing them 

Or Intelligent Love, that calibrates the whole universe for the maximisation of Love

The former is Feminine Love, the Latter is Masculine Love. You need a balance of both imo.

[cistanche_enjoyer]

There is also the concept of Self-Love, where Self is the whole universe, including infinity, and including your limited human form.

From this perspective, what you mean by “loving unconditionally” is actually too little love for your limited human form, and too much love for the forms outside it. The key in life is to find the proper balance. God loves everything equally.

[UnbornTao]

I'd start by trying to pin down what you mean by love - unpacking how it's being viewed - and the idea that life has a purpose beyond the one you create for it. In your post, love is treated as fundamentally relational, a disposition that shows up between people. And that is a reasonable take.

But you're likely fooling yourself in a sense. I'd suggest that people do this all the time with this subject. What you really want is to feel good and improve your experience, but wrapped in a spiritual twist. Loving everything sounds wonderful in theory. But honestly, how would it actually manifest - beyond being just an adopted idea or an intellectual game?

Now, take the idea of unconditional love seriously for a moment. The self is inherently conditional in that, among other things, you desire some things and reject others. For example, can you love what you hate? Maybe, but the fact remains that you hate it - which obviously means you do not love it. And there's a reason for that hatred: it's something you've deemed unlovable, whatever the reasons.

So, setting aside fantasy and wishful thinking, if there's any operative principle here, make it real. I suspect it won't match your expectations, because, again, it has to be something that is real. What is that about? Maybe adopting a disposition of acceptance towards everything you experience is a good stepping-stone.

Edited 8 hours ago by UnbornTao

[Ramasta9]

If you saw and felt yourself as everything, how could it not be love? 

[gettoefl]

Some food for thought is that unconditional means you can't limit it to two people.

 

Edited Monday at 02:41 PM by gettoefl

[BlueOak]

Its a short cut. Love what you hate. Doesn't mean be a doormat or agree with everything, it means love it. Including your natural responses to it.

I've never seen someone respond when I say: Any emotion is infinite.

But with love you as an individual can cease to exist entirely, yes. When translated to a non spiritual context, this can be met with abuse, but when in a safe loving space, it can translate to being everything at once.

*Little test.
Try loving every word everyone in this thread has written.

Edited 9 hours ago by BlueOak

[Breakingthewall]

 Love is an expression not a path. It's the expression of what you are. You can't change the expression, you can pretend that you do, but then you are false. The biblical commandment that says: love God, love your neighbor, love your enemies, is usually a call to hypocrisy. The real path is open yourself, be what you are, don't try to be another, don't try to love, don't try, just be. You are the expression of the reality, your depth has no bottom , your perfection has not stain. If you could see what you really are, you would relax any control.