Neurodivergent Bias of Actualized.org

[Joshe]

43 minutes ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

I know I am wired very, very differently. I just do not label myself. 

I never cared to look into it but I was going through severe burnout and trying to get to the bottom of it, and that search led to ND. I always kind of just felt like, “so what if you’re ND, it’s just a label, you’re still you, it doesn’t change anything, therefore a useless abstraction that usually traps people in victim mindset.”, but I was wrong. It was very explanatory. The literature actually has words to explain us very well. One benefit to finding out was increased self-acceptance.

I even had the thought “what if what I’ve been calling my ‘Ni’ is just ND”, lol. It could be, and if true, funny af. I had your thought about evolution as well. 

I think OP has a strong point that the vast majority of people attracted to this space are likely ND. If I were to guess, I’d guess you are. 

[Hojo]

@CredIm not sure if they could develop one, I think what you are talking about there is more ADHD. A baby in a chaotic environment cannot run so it has to develop a survival mechanism of looking away earlier on. I think this is where ADHD comes from. Like a baby has to start 'running' very early on it does this my shifting its attention. When the person with ADHD cant focus on something it dosent like comes from this. They dont feel safe focusing on something they dont like as a survival mechanism. So when they are laying there if mommy and daddy start screaming again it starts to look around to pretend its not there.

Autistic just dont make up that they are a person. Basically not having an ego.

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[Natasha Tori Maru]

@Joshe Thanks for the input - you probably have a decent profile of me, considering our ongoing dialogue and your general interest in personality types

27 minutes ago, Joshe said:

 One benefit to finding out was increased self-acceptance.

No problem with that on my end, definitely a function of my upbringing. Crazy alcoholic artist raising me really impressed individualism to an extreme. Could also be nature - I think I can be, shall we say... headstrong? (I say this over stubborn lol). I do raise it is a process though, and there were some aspects of myself I struggled to accept. But not ND related - gender/sex related, believe it or not!

27 minutes ago, Joshe said:

I even had the thought “what if what I’ve been calling my ‘Ni’ is just ND”, lol. It could be, and if true, funny af. I had your thought about evolution as well. 

I think OP has a strong point that the vast majority of people attracted to this space are likely ND. If I were to guess, I’d guess you are. 

Yep, I guessed you would have clocked that also. I do think there is a neurologically adaptive component. 

This conversation has made me put neurodivergence on the list of 'hours of reading literature, ten thousand internet tabs & coffee'

Edited 1 hour ago by Natasha Tori Maru

[Basman]

2 hours ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

I suppose this touches on a wider scope - if ND is becoming more prevalent; when does it begin to appear to be an evolutionary manifestation of human intelligence, as a response to our rapidly evolving technological environment? You could argue a case that with the advent of smartphones, we are already cyborgs, or a form of. 

I do not feel I am ND.

Maybe others here can assess how they view that within me, I have NO idea how I am perceived or much about ND.

I know I am wired very, very differently. I just do not label myself. 

The point of a diagnosis is to formally treat an issue. If you don't have an issue you don't necessarily benefit from the label. 

[Basman]

Autism 

5 hours ago, Hojo said:

@BasmanIts their parents energy. Autist people lack identity so they suck up the energy or their parents. If their parents give them love they are ok, if their parents are angry and hate them they get erratic.

I have seen videos of autistic retarded kids with loving parents and they are chill. I have seen videos of autistic kids with parents that secretly lament them and they are angry.

If you have a loving environment the autistic person is like a cat. Theres no person there its just like a being its totally fine doing nothing. Then there are households where the cats are very angry, any household with an angry cat, the owners did that do them.

It's genetic. People are too eager to whitewash autism as merely a variant without acknowledging how much of a disability it can be, especially socially. Parents energy isn't going to change a lack of innate motor skills, not being able to hold a spoon without gripping it like a baby for example. Or freaking out over dust.

Something like 71% of autistic adults are unemployed and have a reduced average life expectancy. It's a disability to a varying extent.