Gender Identity Is Total Nonsense

[Hatfort]

11 minutes ago, Twentyfirst said:

You are proving the point though. Why would someone call a wife by partner? For what reason? What are you trying to gain?

Would you call your doctor "donkey"?

This is why people are tired of all this nonsense. It's almost like these identity freaks are fanning the flames just to piss people off.

Absolutely. How are you going to live after this? I can't even imagine what you are going through. They asked you if you had a partner, for god's sake! That's too much, man.

[Twentyfirst]

31 minutes ago, Hatfort said:

Absolutely. How are you going to live after this? I can't even imagine what you are going through. They asked you if you had a partner, for god's sake! That's too much, man.

It's too much for me. So I have to live in a way that I don't want to because trans people went to jail for being trans like 100 years ago? Not my problem.

A lot of this stuff is for indoctrinating the youth. It's not designed for me to accept it. This identity stuff has been going on for a decade now and I still don't want to adjust to it. They are just waiting for the older people to die out and soft young minds to grow up, it's a long game.

[Meeksauce]

12 hours ago, Elliott said:

Because it's not proven, arbitrary means on a whim. Believing something(genders) that's not proven(actually proven wrong), is arbitrary. Not believing in something because you haven't been proven that it's true, is not arbitrary, it's called critical thinking actually.

The owness to prove something(gender) is on the claimants, otherwise it's an arbitrary belief. Not acknowledging a made up belief(gender), is not arbitrary.

 

If I say a flying sphagetti monster is God, and you say I don't believe that, your claim in your post is the same as saying people that don't believe in the monster are just being arbitrary because they haven't proven the monster doesn't exist. If a 5 year old says they don't understand what you mean by gender, that means they're being arbitrary?

 

 

I realized after I wrote this that arbitrariness is considered one the main ideas of gender, so yeah I would consider that point correct. I think however, that if you completely ignore your birth given sex and just say "chromosomes and genitalia are arbitrary" you are denying some very basic facts about biology. There are studies showing men and women naturally have different personalities, and of course the classic counter to that is "but those differences are due to societal structure!" To which I would say yes, that is partially true, but I would argue there are also inherent personality traits that form before society can get its' grip on you - this is also scientifically backed. But Leo, scientifically backed doesn't mean anything! Did evolution not happen? Does the body you were given, functioning autonomously with an insane degree of intelligence, just appear out of nowhere? Maybe this is a hot take, but I think men and women evolved to live in harmony which results in the greatest survival likelihood rate. But Leo, that's just survival! Yes, the whole point of my argument is that biological and sociological factors play in. The natural difference between males and females may not be huge, but it certainly is there before conditioning.

[Hatfort]

12 hours ago, Twentyfirst said:

It's too much for me. So I have to live in a way that I don't want to because trans people went to jail for being trans like 100 years ago? Not my problem.

A lot of this stuff is for indoctrinating the youth. It's not designed for me to accept it. This identity stuff has been going on for a decade now and I still don't want to adjust to it. They are just waiting for the older people to die out and soft young minds to grow up, it's a long game.

You don't need to live in a way you don't want, you decide how that is, just do it.

The word partner isn't exclusive to business, it can be many other things like in games, in work, and, in the case of relationships, it's referred to as a partner in life. This use probably became more popular for homosexual relationships when they started to be more visible in society, it was perhaps a more comfortable term not only for them, but their families and social circles, maybe on the older side, in times of transition from being taboo to accepted, and out of legality too. In any case, it was something organic, not some kind of imposition. It also happens to be quite a neutral word, so valid for heterosexual relationships too, more so when someone who doesn't know the other person can use it to ask their relationship status. Emphasis in can, you don't have to use it, you just can. 

So quit crying, being such a snowflake, and word policing. Live your life as you want, and let others do so as well. I know you won't, you are beyond reason, and even ridiculous, but still there it is. 

Edited 8 hours ago by Hatfort

[Twentyfirst]

4 hours ago, Hatfort said:

You don't need to live in a way you don't want, you decide how that is, just do it.

The word partner isn't exclusive to business, it can be many other things like in games, in work, and, in the case of relationships, it's referred to as a partner in life. This use probably became more popular for homosexual relationships when they started to be more visible in society, it was perhaps a more comfortable term not only for them, but their families and social circles, maybe on the older side, in times of transition from being taboo to accepted, and out of legality too. In any case, it was something organic, not some kind of imposition. It also happens to be quite a neutral word, so valid for heterosexual relationships too, more so when someone who doesn't know the other person can use it to ask their relationship status. Emphasis in can, you don't have to use it, you just can. 

So quit crying, being such a snowflake, and word policing. Live your life as you want, and let others do so as well. I know you won't, you are beyond reason, and even ridiculous, but still there it is. 

Exactly. Why is my relationship being regarded to as with homosexual relationship language.

Telling me to quit crying and being a snowflake is just a low way to shame me to accept living in a way I don't want to.

Don't worry about me. I'm not in the minority. Worry about the minorities you care about so much and help them.

[Hatfort]

13 minutes ago, Twentyfirst said:

Exactly. Why is my relationship being regarded to as with homosexual relationship language.

Telling me to quit crying and being a snowflake is just a low way to shame me to accept living in a way I don't want to.

Don't worry about me. I'm not in the minority. Worry about the minorities you care about so much and help them.

Exactly not. Partner is not homosexual nor heterosexual, it's a neutral word valid in any case. Someone who doesn't know what kind of relationship you have can perfectly ask you if you have a partner, there's nothing beyond that. 

You are a snowflake if you are troubled when someone who doesn't know you asks if you have a partner. How about answering: Yeah, I'm married, I have a wife. Or: No, I'm single, I'm looking for a girlfriend. Or whatever. You are such a snowflake.

I worry about whoever I want.