I prefer conservative style of humor

[AerisVahnEphelia]

Don’t you notice how normie leftists/liberals are so uptight and fucking annoying about their “moral rules”?

I want to be able to joke and mock everyone and everything, limitlessly.

And if someone tells me it’s wrong, I want to clearly tell them: fuck off and don’t laugh then.

But I’m an absolute leftist in my economics and philosophy.
I just can’t stand people telling me, “oh, you should not joke about cancer or whatever.”

My black humor has no limits, and wanting to limit me is fascism. I could self-regulate or self-control, but I don’t give a shit. I’m creative. I need my brain to connect deeply to my intuition.

Ever wondered why people with Tourette’s always say obnoxious shit when they have a tic? It’s because the unconscious brain knows exactly where the limits of taboo are, which means our brain is constantly in fear of saying the wrong thing. 

Wanting to self-regulate your speech, especially when you do deep intuitive humor, is literally like putting your brain in acid and making yourself dumber.

Self-regulation doesn’t always make you superior. It also literally makes you dumb, uncreative, and conservative.

At the ultimate level of self-awareness, you’ll still look like Donald Trump.

Turquoise is stage Blue at Tier 2.

Coral is stage Red at Tier 2. You’ll tell and do anything to get people to Tier 2. Green empathy is now fully accepted: to punch your face only for the goal of love and care. Instead of feeding the ego, it’s about making God whole.

Edited 5 hours ago by AerisVahnEphelia

[Leo Gura]

Yeah, but one day you will realize that your words hurt real people, and your view of things will shift.

Your own amusement is not as important as hurting others. Are you really so needy for humor that you must do it at someone else's suffering?

Example: I could make a gay joke, but do I really need to? Not that I can't, but just why do it at all? It is a childish need that can be surrendered.

Edited 5 hours ago by Leo Gura

[Stick]

try to joke about trump being in Epstein files with conservatives, you will find that they too have taboos that they dont joke about just like leftists. This is not a political problem but a problem of attachment.

[aurum]

55 minutes ago, AerisVahnEphelia said:

Don’t you notice how normie leftists/liberals are so uptight and fucking annoying about their “moral rules”?

Yes, because they often have higher moral development. That's not a coincidence.

Also, consider that "conservative" style of humor is not always as free as you are suggesting. Try making a joke about Xi Jinping in China.

The idea here that self-regulation is always in opposition to self-expression needs to be challenged. They do work as opposites, but they can also go together. Voluntary self-regulation exists.

[AerisVahnEphelia]

34 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Yeah, but one day you will realize that your words hurt real people, and your view of things will shift.

Your own amusement is not as important as hurting others. Are you really so needy for humor that you must do it at someone else's suffering?

Example: I could make a gay joke, but do I really need to? Not that I can't, but just why do it at all? It is a childish need that can be surrendered.

I don’t disagree with you. I’m not in favor of deliberately hurting people. I may have obviously lacked nuance here.

Really, it’s something I find annoying about American culture: being soft and making sure not to hurt people’s feelings.
In my country, it’s all about having thick skin, or else you don’t deserve to be part of the tribe. It’s our mentality, and being intellectually obnoxious is what matters and shows you’re engaged.

Americans often can’t grasp abstraction or tone easily, maybe because they are all cowboys who can basically shoot each other over the wrong word.

They read things very literally and don’t assume that something “stupid” might OBVIOUSLY be sarcasm, which is almost a default in France. People take things far more literally nowadays too due to text internet based reality I suppose and the intermingling of culture.

There are two aspects that do not exist in the way I express myself. One is getting pleasure from sadism. None of that exists in me. I have zero understanding of how sadism works. It’s completely dry to my soul.

Other one is assuming everything is sarcasm when it sound stupid. 

definitely "blue" programming.

I could certainly evolve, but I’m convinced that France is ahead of America in terms of spiritual development.So maybe Americans should indeed learn to be less GAY.
( Irony intended, since to Americans, all French people are gay anyway)

 

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It’s debatable whether having soft skin or thick skin is better. I definitely have a bias toward making people develop thick skin rather than making my speech softer.
It might have nothing to do with development at all, and really just be a matter of taste or preference.
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But overall, after the diplomacy and at the end of the day, thick skin is better for far too many reasons. Just like letting women vote is always superior to not letting them vote.
I won't debate further into an argument for thick skin culture being "superior." 

Edited 4 hours ago by AerisVahnEphelia

[Rilles]

That type of humor is boring for a reason, because its not inherently creative, try making a joke about something that noone has made before, now thats hard. 

[Leo Gura]

@Rilles But chicks with dicks!

[Rilles]

1 minute ago, Leo Gura said:

@Rilles But chicks with dicks!

*wheezing gif*

[Hojo]

@AerisVahnEpheliaYes if we let lefties have control over comedy in the future you wont be able to joke about anything. The second you start sensoring yourself for the sake of others you lose. Peoples feelings are not up to you the same way your feeling are up to you only. Its fun to laugh at others and mature to laugh at yourself.

You actually hurt your own body to sensor your comedy. Are you going to sensor yourself for eternity? if you were in heaven and god said no gay jokes he would be severely limiting creation. Let any joke go if its funny its funny if its not dont laugh.

Edited 2 hours ago by Hojo

[NewKidOnTheBlock]

Humor is highly shaped by what your underlying subconscious and conscious beliefs are, that much is true. Maybe becomming a wokefag is the righteous, empathetic path going forward, but the humor will definitely suffer as a result

Edited 2 hours ago by NewKidOnTheBlock

[enchanted]

3 hours ago, AerisVahnEphelia said:

I don’t disagree with you. I’m not in favor of deliberately hurting people. I may have obviously lacked nuance here.

Really, it’s something I find annoying about American culture: being soft and making sure not to hurt people’s feelings.
In my country, it’s all about having thick skin, or else you don’t deserve to be part of the tribe. It’s our mentality, and being intellectually obnoxious is what matters and shows you’re engaged.

Americans often can’t grasp abstraction or tone easily, maybe because they are all cowboys who can basically shoot each other over the wrong word.

They read things very literally and don’t assume that something “stupid” might OBVIOUSLY be sarcasm, which is almost a default in France. People take things far more literally nowadays too due to text internet based reality I suppose and the intermingling of culture.

There are two aspects that do not exist in the way I express myself. One is getting pleasure from sadism. None of that exists in me. I have zero understanding of how sadism works. It’s completely dry to my soul.

Other one is assuming everything is sarcasm when it sound stupid. 

definitely "blue" programming.

I could certainly evolve, but I’m convinced that France is ahead of America in terms of spiritual development.So maybe Americans should indeed learn to be less GAY.
( Irony intended, since to Americans, all French people are gay anyway)

 

 

It’s debatable whether having soft skin or thick skin is better. I definitely have a bias toward making people develop thick skin rather than making my speech softer.
It might have nothing to do with development at all, and really just be a matter of taste or preference.
--

But overall, after the diplomacy and at the end of the day, thick skin is better for far too many reasons. Just like letting women vote is always superior to not letting them vote.
I won't debate further into an argument for thick skin culture being "superior." 

Very interesting perspective and I agree with you. You sound exactly like my French cousin. 

[AerisVahnEphelia]

4 hours ago, aurum said:

Yes, because they often have higher moral development. That's not a coincidence.

Also, consider that "conservative" style of humor is not always as free as you are suggesting. Try making a joke about Xi Jinping in China.

The idea here that self-regulation is always in opposition to self-expression needs to be challenged. They do work as opposites, but they can also go together. Voluntary self-regulation exists.

No.
They are not higher than me. 
Even the fact that someone continue thinking in terms of discrete RACES already reveals a profound epistemic limitation; a very low-resolution map of reality.

No, you should not acknowledge or reify that poisonous framing.

By giving it thought, belief, and linguistic reality, you reinforce the very pattern that generates division.

Races, as essentialized categories, do not exist in nature; and whenever people attempt to draw clean boundaries, they are forced to invoke arbitrary, power-laden criteria, the same move that historically enabled the worst ideological abuses.


I am grateful that my American wife perceives this clearly: the very habit of racialized cognition is already a form of epistemic violence.

There are no “black people,” no “Asian people”, only one continuously distributed human lineage.
That shared lineage represents a higher order of reality. Do you see it?

Not the parody of classifying humans into rigid race and gender bins and every other crude binary.
Genetic science insofar shows the cradle of humanity was Africa.

In the most rigorous sense, therefore, every human alive carries African ancestry, including you, including me.
So we are all, in that precise meaning, of that lineage, so I can use ALL THE WORDS that define my origin by definition.

Any debate about whether I belong to it or not functions to erase the continuity of my ancestors.
That erasure is the real violence.

Why feel triggered by any word that are self defining ?

Can you see how structurally incoherent, how misaligned with reality, it is to keep thinking this way?
In what meaningful sense is this mode of cognition superior to the MAGA worldview ? 
0 it's just as retarded, as lower tier as all the rest of the clown show.

Both are symmetrical reductions; both are, at root, toddler babbling performances.