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[UnbornTao]

8 minutes ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

Why not inquire further?

It is far easier to fool someone, than to convince them they have been fooled.

[Natasha Tori Maru]

2 minutes ago, UnbornTao said:

It is far easier to fool someone, than to convince them they have been fooled.

I read my own signature again and again through this thread, I am glad it got through you.

[UnbornTao]

Just now, Natasha Tori Maru said:

I read my own signature again and again through this thread, I am glad it got through you.

I love you.

[Natasha Tori Maru]

11 minutes ago, UnbornTao said:

I love you.

Jubilantly received 

To be sure, you do not even know what I claim. Your inferences and assumptions are as vague as fumes dissolving in a mirage.

Which is why the fool thing sorta fell flat 🙃

[UnbornTao]

3 minutes ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

Jubilantly received 

To be sure, you do not even know what I claim. Your inferences and assumptions are as vague as fumes dissolving in a mirage.

Which is why the fool thing sorta fell flat 🙃

I'd like to emphasize the second part of the quote in relation to this discussion: than to convince them they have been fooled.

[Natasha Tori Maru]

It's a good message for you, isn't it? It made the desired impact. 

Good day 😏

[UnbornTao]

4 minutes ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

It's a good message for you, isn't it? It made the desired impact. 

Good day 😏

You can keep believing, if you want. 

[Joseph Maynor]

1 minute ago, UnbornTao said:

You can keep believing, if you want. 

What is a belief?  

[UnbornTao]

11 minutes ago, Joseph Maynor said:

What is a belief?  

A thought that is held as true. Or a thought about the truth of something.

"Thought" that can appear as if it were "the way things are". But it is still a thought, an activity (of the mind), and therefore distinct in nature from whatever is the case for itself.

It is thinking taken as true in itself. May need to rephrase this one. 

Edited 49 minutes ago by UnbornTao

[Joseph Maynor]

1 minute ago, UnbornTao said:

A thought that is held as true. Or a thought about the truth of something.

"Thought" that can appear as "the way things are". But it's a thought, ergo an activity of the mind. And so distinct in nature from whatever's the case for itself.

Which is kinda of the Neo-Advaita focus on the idea that -- thought is false or misleading.

[UnbornTao]

20 minutes ago, Joseph Maynor said:

Which is kinda of the Neo-Advaita focus on the idea that -- thought is false or misleading.

We could even say that this system is itself a belief structure: a set of thoughts strung together that is assumed or taken to be true once adopted (believed).

Hmm, maybe. Perhaps it'd be more accurate to say that they are different from, or independent of, the truth itself - whatever that turns out to be.

Edited 31 minutes ago by UnbornTao

[Joseph Maynor]

10 minutes ago, UnbornTao said:

We could say that this system is itself a belief structure: a set of thoughts strung together that is assumed or taken to be true once adopted. 

Hmm, maybe. Perhaps it'd be more accurate to say that they are different from, or independent of, the truth itself - whatever that turns out to be.

Ok, so we can deconstruct, but when are we allowed to re-construct?

[UnbornTao]

1 minute ago, Joseph Maynor said:

Ok, so we can deconstruct, but when are we allowed to re-construct?

What do you mean? 

The truth only cares about itself, so to speak. So what are you asking? Re-construct what? 

[Joseph Maynor]

8 minutes ago, UnbornTao said:

What do you mean? 

The truth only cares about itself, so to speak. So what are you asking? Re-construct what? 

See this is where you go back to dismantling instead of creating.