What spiritual teachers actually teach Solipsism

[Sincerity]

17 minutes ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

I do wonder if it wouldn't matter, though

If it turned out he was faking the „alien” thing, I wouldn’t mind. It would say something about his character, but I’d appreciate the teachings the same.

Edited 13 hours ago by Sincerity

[Sugarcoat]

On 2026-01-10 at 10:39 AM, Breakingthewall said:

Fear and the need for self-preservation are fundamental elements of a living being. A living being is a self-preserving universe within another universe; its root is the will to be. Every breath or heartbeat is a manifestation of that will.

On 2026-01-10 at 2:10 AM, Sugarcoat said:

I see. 
 

 

On 2026-01-10 at 10:39 AM, Breakingthewall said:

 

Saying that reality is not real because it's a dream is just a spiritual formula, same than saying that everything is pure consciousness. The main goal of those claims are seduction. Spirituality is used as a mean to gain money and attention, same than politics. Humans need spirituality, then there are sellers and the most charismatic wins 

Maybe reality is real but that there’s a dream quality to my specific pov of reality.

 

[Breakingthewall]

38 minutes ago, Sugarcoat said:

Maybe reality is real but that there’s a dream quality to my specific pov of reality.

Dreaming means that what appears doesn't have its own reality; it's your dream creation. It doesn't exist independently of you; you're creating it with your mind. Therefore, only what appears in your field of consciousness exists, and it's a creation of your mind. 

Then there is an absolute limit: you as creator. And another absolute limit: the field of your consciusness. Then reality is absolutely limited in all directions. 

[Sugarcoat]

16 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

Dreaming means that what appears doesn't have its own reality; it's your dream creation. It doesn't exist independently of you; you're creating it with your mind. Therefore, only what appears in your field of consciousness exists, and it's a creation of your mind. 

Then there is an absolute limit: you as creator. And another absolute limit: the field of your consciusness. Then reality is absolutely limited in all directions. 

That’s one way of defining. I meant more that there might be a reality, exactly how it is, but from my pov, I am experiencing a warped version of that reality (for example by feeling like I’m stuck to this body and the world is out there, or viewing someone through a lense of judgement) . So maybe there’s possibility of experiencing reality exactly how it is without this warping which I assume has to do with the self 

Edited 9 hours ago by Sugarcoat

[Breakingthewall]

2 hours ago, Sugarcoat said:

That’s one way of defining. I meant more that there might be a reality, exactly how it is, but from my pov, I am experiencing a warped version of that reality (for example by feeling like I’m stuck to this body and the world is out there, or viewing someone through a lense of judgement) . So maybe there’s possibility of experiencing reality exactly how it is without this warping which I assume has to do with the self 

Sure, You might perceive a guy as very noble and then he turns out to be a professional con artist, but there's a guy with his own reality.

The spirituality that says reality is a dream means that there isn't a guy; you're imagining him, he doesn't really exist, just like when you dream while you're sleeping

[Sugarcoat]

15 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

Sure, You might perceive a guy as very noble and then he turns out to be a professional con artist, but there's a guy with his own reality.

The spirituality that says reality is a dream means that there isn't a guy; you're imagining him, he doesn't really exist, just like when you dream while you're sleeping

I see what you mean, yea that particular view I don’t believe for now

[Carl-Richard]

10 hours ago, Sincerity said:

I said I’m not pursuing discussion with you here. 🤷‍♂️

No hard feelings. We’ll talk someplace else. But talking on „your level” of heavy conceptualization and dualism is just a needless tiresome exercise and again: a detraction from truth. You do you, but leave me out of it (when talking about the most basic things). 

I don't want to do that now. I want to do the inquiry into direct experience that I talked about in the other thread. It's very step by step based on what you answer, not a lecture. But you will find that exercise patronizing, so only if you're open to that.

Edited 3 hours ago by Carl-Richard