What spiritual teachers actually teach Solipsism

[Inliytened1]

3 minutes ago, Sincerity said:

My point is that while solipsism/oneness is absolutely true, there is also an insight/awakening that more or less contradicts solipsism, and it's absolutely true as well.

Both are true. It's a cosmic joke that you either get or not. It's a mindfuck, but Reality is Mysterious and Paradoxical, so it's actually nothing new under the sun.

At least that's my experience.

Exactly! I get it.

 Because imagination is ultimately reality. 

[Breakingthewall]

58 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

It doesn't emit anything.  It is Inifnity. You of all people should know that reality is Infinity. And if it is - which it is - then it has no end.  So it does not end with atoms. Or quarks. Or whatever you want to deposit underneath quarks.  It is fundamentally a dream.  You can zoom into your hand forever and you will not ever get to the bottom. 

This has radical implications because it means that there cannot be a physical universe. 

Solipsism is the idea that only you exist, and everyone else is an image you've created because you don't want to be alone for eternity, and out of love. So, you, as a god, create all of that, but you hide it. You play a game and leave fun clues, like gurus, that help you awaken again and again. Do you believe that? It implies that right now you are creating all what you are perceiving deliberately with a pourpose, and hiding it to play a game . 

Edited 21 hours ago by Breakingthewall

[Inliytened1]

9 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

Solipsism is the idea that only you exist, and everyone else is an image you've created because you don't want to be alone for eternity, and out of love. So, you, as a god, create all of that, but you hide it. You play a game and leave fun clues, like gurus, that help you awaken again and again. Do you believe that?

Thats how the ego twists it.

Actually its an Infinite Mind without boundaries.   

So it's imagining things and people and places and beings not because of emotions.  Emotions come after.

Its just an Infinitely intelligent mind that is so intelligent it can add the emotions to the ego.

Edited 21 hours ago by Inliytened1

[Sincerity]

I found a clip from Bashar.

"You are physical reality itself. There is no physical reality except for your experience of it, and THAT is what reality is."

[James123]

17 hours ago, Inliytened1 said:

Ramana Maharshi.

Who else.

Solipsism is Truth.   It's just too hard to swallow. Who else.

 

Find that "you" that exist. 

[Breakingthewall]

17 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

Thats how the ego twists it.

Actually its an Infinite Mind without boundaries.   

So it's imagining things and people and places and beings not because of emotions.  Emotions come after.

Its just an Infinitely intelligent mind that is so intelligent it can add the emotions to the ego.

So you are that mind that is imagining the others. Are you aware of how you are doing it? Or it's out of your awareness?

[Inliytened1]

@Sincerity love it.

[Nemra]

To claim that you are only your body is false and illogical. It doesn't matter if it's not practical.

[Inliytened1]

14 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

So you are that mind that is imagining the others. Are you aware of how you are doing it? Or it's out of your awareness?

Well that's a really good question.  But first you have to accept that reality is Consciousness and that you are this Consciousness as Bashar states.  Do you even accept this?  This would indicate that you could, as this Mind, dream up anything.  You could dream that you are a human - which is what is happening now.  And as this human, no - you would not have awareness that you are the One Mind. You would be in a state in which you thought and felt as a human would. 

[Sincerity]

35 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

So you are that mind that is imagining the others. Are you aware of how you are doing it? Or it's out of your awareness?

There's an infinity of you that you're unaware of.

But awareness of it doesn't change a thing. It's always the case. No matter what.

Edited 20 hours ago by Sincerity

[Loveeee]

God

[Inliytened1]

14 minutes ago, Loveeee said:

God

God is the greatest teacher.  Through suffering one will come to know God.

[Joseph Maynor]

I don't see much agreement happening between points of view on this topic.  

[Breakingthewall]

1 hour ago, Inliytened1 said:

you would not have awareness that you are the One Mind. You would be in a state in which you thought and felt as a human would. 

1 hour ago, Inliytened1 said:

 

 So, if you admit, as is inevitable, that there is a reality outside your consciousness, why can't you admit that the people you see on the street also have their own consciousness?

 

[Breakingthewall]

51 minutes ago, Sincerity said:

There's an infinity of you that you're unaware of.

But awareness of it doesn't change a thing. It's always the case. No matter what.

If that's the case, then solipsism is false, since it claims that the only thing that exists is the content of your consciousness.

[Sincerity]

26 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

If that's the case, then solipsism is false, since it claims that the only thing that exists is the content of your consciousness.

There is content to your consciousness that you're unaware of.

But it's all still consciousness, and one "thing" in the end.

[Inliytened1]

47 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

 So, if you admit, as is inevitable, that there is a reality outside your consciousness, why can't you admit that the people you see on the street also have their own consciousness?

 

Bro - reality outside of your consciousness exists but it exists as imagination if will always be that no matter how much you want to change it. You are obviously bothered by being singular as God. The whole premise of idealism and solipsism seems to freak you out.  Ask yourself why.

Edited 19 hours ago by Inliytened1

[Breakingthewall]

13 minutes ago, Sincerity said:

There is content to your consciousness that you're unaware of.

But it's all still consciousness, and one "thing" in the end.

Solipsism claims that the people that you see in the street are not real, because there is nothing real outside of your field of consciousness. We are discussing about solipsism . Then you don't believe in solipsism.

12 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

Bro - reality outside of your consciousness exists but it exists as imagination 

Solipsism claims that reality outside of your consciousness doesn't exist. Maybe you should watch the video about solipsism.

Anyway, what means imagination? Means that there is a center, you, that does an action, imagining , and the product of that action is the imagination. So instead of dissolving the self, you put the self in the category of God and you call that enlightenment. Well, it's not that. 

[Inliytened1]

2 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

 

Anyway, what means imagination? Means that there is a center, you, that does an action, imagining , and the product of that action is the imagination. So instead of dissolving the self, you put the self in the category of God and you call that enlightenment. Well, it's not that. 

No that's not true. The first thing to dissolve is the self. And then the dissolution of other.  You're right if you want to discuss fhe tradional definition of solipsism but that is not what is being said here.  Self/Other must both collapse for enlightenment. 

[Joseph Maynor]

8 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

 Self/Other must both collapse for enlightenment. 

This sounds like the no separate self insight.