Is an obedient wife better?

[Butters]

It appears to me that having an obedient wife is better but I never hear anything like that in the mainstream media. 

Is there any evidence that having a modern, feminist wife has advantages or is better for your spiritual development? 

In a relationship I'm much more interested in guiding her spiritually and empathetically correcting her beliefs. And of course helping each other achieve goals, work on a business, be there emotionally when needed. But my masculine energy and her feminine energy should be enough. 

Thoughts? 

Edit: there is a chance I am confusing 'modern feminism' with stage Orange selfishness, but what else is modern feminism BUT selfishness? 

Edited 3 hours ago by Butters

[enchanted]

Depends on what you like. Wanting an "obedient" wife or husband sounds a little toxic and cringe. What's better is finding someone you can grow with together. 

[Elliott]

Conservative women are not purely obedient, they're also manipulative, schemeing, resentful, sabotage, divorce. It's only surface level obedience, IF anything. Feminist women, with open communication work with you and look out for you.

Edited 3 hours ago by Elliott

[Vali2003]

A woman being obedient as a result of masculine-feminine polarity is a male fantasy as far as I’m concerned that serves the men’s need of feeling ‘good enough.’ 

I guess some women may be naturally ‘obedient’ or more submissive. And in that case I don’t see a problem with it, I think. 

Ask yourself this though: If you visualize your girlfriend or your wife (even if you don’t have one) and completely integrate her into your sense of self — meaning you make no difference between her and you — then would you want her to be obedient to you? Would that be the empathetic thing to do? 

If I imagine this I’d want her to live her wildest dreams. Her being obedient to me would feel like a massacre to her potential and slavery. 

[Jannes]

@Butters So you like to guide is what I am hearing?

[Jannes]

I was in a f+ once with an obedient girl how you imagine it. I felt so lonely.

[enchanted]

An "obedient" wife and the desire to be obeyed sounds like a two people who are in lower stages of development (like red or blue for example). 

[Butters]

1 hour ago, Vali2003 said:

If I imagine this I’d want her to live her wildest dreams. Her being obedient to me would feel like a massacre to her potential and slavery. 

I didn't think this far. 

But being supportive of her goals is massively important, I wouldn't wanna hold anyone back from their goals. 

I meant this more as being a spiritual guide. Here, doesn't the wife submit to the husband? The nature of the feminine is submissive and the nature of the masculine is dominant. 

[aurum]

@Butters not "obedient". You don't need or want a slave. That will quickly become tyrannical.

[Elliott]

A two person cult. Lolz

[Butters]

I think you guys a bit disillusioned. 

What guys call 'cute' in a girl is literally submissive nonverbal signals. It's not a bosslady in a tracksuit. 

The feminine submits to the masculine. Literally by getting fucked, and spiritually also. 

This seems obvious to me. 

[something_else]

2 minutes ago, Butters said:

I think you guys a bit disillusioned. 

What guys call 'cute' in a girl is literally submissive nonverbal signals. It's not a bosslady in a tracksuit. 

The feminine submits to the masculine. Literally by getting fucked, and spiritually also. 

This seems obvious to me. 

Saying the feminine submits to the masculine is wrong. The feminine wants containment and protection, not slavery and submission.