The US potentially attacking Europe

[Ulax]

I saw a video by Vlad Vexler. He said that we are seeing Trump move the US away from seeking International Power and towards seeking regional power. Seems greenland is part of that.

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48 minutes ago, AerisVahnEphelia said:

The USA is going to wake up completely isolated

The US isn't isolating. The US is coordinating with other nations and private interests. This is a global conspiracy and it looks like US imperialism is part of the plan. The US will no longer be top dog, but the plans are for the US (what's left of it) to be the face of the destruction of democracy around the globe. It's all show though, the US isn't calling the shots. Global corruption.

[AerisVahnEphelia]

14 minutes ago, Breathe said:

The US isn't isolating. The US is coordinating with other nations and private interests. This is a global conspiracy and it looks like US imperialism is part of the plan. The US will no longer be top dog, but the plans are for the US (what's left of it) to be the face of the destruction of democracy around the globe. It's all show though, the US isn't calling the shots. Global corruption.

that's one conspiracy possibility, or everyone is extremly smart as you make it be, or everyone is way more retarded than you think.

[Basman]

2 minutes ago, AerisVahnEphelia said:

that's one conspiracy possibility, or everyone is extremly smart as you make it be, or everyone is way more retarded than you think.

The latter when you consider how they are creating a less safe, less prosperous and less wealthy society.

There are issues with technocratic centrism, but that doesn't mean upending the system entirely is a viable solution. But it would probably be giving authoritarians too much credit to think it's well intended. It's about enabling narcissism.

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1 hour ago, AerisVahnEphelia said:

or everyone is extremly smart as you make it be, or everyone is way more retarded than you think

I'd say get real clear on that

[Lord of Darkness]

On 1/7/2026 at 11:53 AM, ted73104 said:

The US has yet to conquer Venezuela. Even if the US does succeed in taking over Venezuela in a short time, it'll take 10 years to build the infrastructure to extract all that oil. By that time the Republicans would probably not be in power anymore and Venezuela could just take over the built infrastructure and nationalize it just like they did before.

I don't think China is just going to do nothing if Venezuela gets invaded either.

No. Its gonna take a year and a half. 

[Lord of Darkness]

On 1/7/2026 at 1:20 PM, zazen said:

Reality isn’t purely material darwinianism and law of the jungle. Might makes right is pre-concious,  although utopian liberals think being concious means rejecting the reality of power/survival dynamics existing or that they are above it.

Power needs to be buffered by principles that come from our own conscience intuition of what is “right” and “wrong”.

A lot of the right wing just want to default to our animal nature because it’s simpler than dealing with the complexity of having to nurture nature to more humane ends that actually create civilization.

Its efficiency. Commities=bloat. Authoritah =decisions. UN is nothing but bloat. Power does not stand vacum, something is gonna fill it. Venezuela had unfortunate massive oil reserves, could not process them, so it was forced to process them, could venezuela be its own little paradise without it? Who knows, in global competition aztecs were evicted and replaced, we were to be more civilised now... but recent events are quite disillusioning....

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@Lord of Darkness I envy your screen-name

[Basman]

1 hour ago, Lord of Darkness said:

Its efficiency. Commities=bloat. Authoritah =decisions. UN is nothing but bloat. Power does not stand vacum, something is gonna fill it. Venezuela had unfortunate massive oil reserves, could not process them, so it was forced to process them, could venezuela be its own little paradise without it? Who knows, in global competition aztecs were evicted and replaced, we were to be more civilised now... but recent events are quite disillusioning....

This has nothing to do with efficiency. Trump has no plan for running Venezuela. It's pure theatrics. 

[zazen]

On 1/7/2026 at 0:11 PM, Elliott said:

How is that "post truth"? Might makes right, it's just reality, right is subjective.

Power and survival dynamics which are instinctual and reflexive are reality - and to buffer against that harsh reality humans reflected and created constructs such as law and norms. The reality of power precedes principle, but principle redeems power. Consciousness nurtures the unconsciousness of nature.

That management of power and survival dynamics is conditional - civilization is a subscription we continuously pay for with human effort and isn't a end product utopia. Once those conditions deteriorate due to mismanagement or structural shifts then the base reality of power and survival re-assert themselves. This happened at Russia's red line in Ukraine, will happen at China's red line in Taiwan - and has not happened at any red line for the US. 

This move isn't national security but empire in-security - at their position in the system being challenged by rising powers demanding a more equitable world order - where one nation and it's allies don't have veto power to unilaterally sanction anyone that doesn't subordinate themselves to Western interests.

Edited 2 hours ago by zazen