The US potentially attacking Europe

[Kid A]

Norway still has a lot of oil and gas, and from MAGA’s perspective we are Islamized socialists/communists.

God help us.

Edited Tuesday at 12:17 PM by Kid A

[pablo_aka_god]

I call a bluff on the Greenland situation. Taking Venezuela is low hanging fruit with very high potential ROI, it's very close to US military bases and they knew no one would care much since they were under a dictatorship which more than half the country wanted to get rid of.

Getting Greenland is very risky(militarily and politically) and the ROI is not as high. 

Edited Tuesday at 01:02 PM by pablo_aka_god

[Kid A]

25 minutes ago, pablo_aka_god said:

I call a bluff on the Greenland situation.

Mette Frederiksen doesn’t…
https://www.nytimes.com/2026/01/05/world/europe/trump-greenland-denmark.html

[pablo_aka_god]

26 minutes ago, Kid A said:

Mette Frederiksen doesn’t…
https://www.nytimes.com/2026/01/05/world/europe/trump-greenland-denmark.html

Of course she will, it's her job to do so.

[zazen]

Europe has all the ingredients to be powerful yet it isn't considered a great power because it has no unity or ability to command that power - specifically militarily.  And military is the hardest dimension of power and sovereignty which they outsourced. To resolve inter-Euro rivalries after the world wars US took the lead in the security domain via NATO - no Euro nation trusts the other to lead so they sub-ordinated that function to a allied superpower placing them under its security umbrella. The fact that this superpower is across the pond and may have its own interests means it can use Europe for its own geopolitical adventures in containing rivals (Russia) and not have to suffer the consequences.

Europe isn't a great power because it refuses the moral and political costs of being one. It's structurally paralyzed because the position to lead the military command would be contested between France, Germany and UK which also disbanded via Brexit. Unity is just noise without a command - armies don't function on consensus but authority. A company can have multiple stakeholders or directors but only one CEO. In a military showdown you can't wait to get consensus from 27 capitals with 27 different threat perceptions and 27 different domestic political situations. A army needs a hierarchy designed to make violent decisions faster than the other side. Consensus is a luxury only democratic civilians can enjoy.

NATO isn't even European defense exactly but is American command of European forces - with the assumption that the US will lead those forces in a direction that benefits European interests and security. If US and European interests diverge - Europe's security architecture is still beholden to being US led via NATO. US also has a kill switch to the military eco system Europe depends on. If the US wanted to take Greenland what could Europe actually do? Militarily not much due to that dependency and operational paralysis around who would lead the charge against the US anyway. The first to take US's side would be Atlanticist Britain, then what? All they could do is political (protest with words) or economic (sanctions and decoupling) which assures tanking the continent.

This is why it's important to have military sovereignty but also never have total dependence on a single power, but instead play them off and spread the risk. In a way this is what India has done - it hedges itself by maintaining economic ties with China, energy and military ties with Russia, and both military and economic ties to the US along with its tech stack. That allows it a level of strategic autonomy Europe doesn't have despite Europe being much more richer and advanced than India.

Edited Tuesday at 03:23 PM by zazen

[Jodistrict]

The European Union won’t work as a governing body.  There are too many chiefs.  That’s why the United States chose a federal government over a confederacy.  The only solution is that Germany needs to take control of Europe.   Europe needs to be one entity because it now has two powerful enemies: Russia and the United States.  There is now an imminent likelihood that European territory, Greenland, will be invaded and occupied through force by the United States. 

[AerisVahnEphelia]

Trump is so insane, what the fucking hell.

I knew he was a retard, but this is beyond retardation.
 

the US is cooked, France is going to deal with China, nothing will get the EU more close to China than this.

Trump is isolating the US completely, no one will trust the US he is attacking exactly like Putin without any distinction.
 

[AerisVahnEphelia]

3 hours ago, Jodistrict said:

The European Union won’t work as a governing body.  There are too many chiefs.  That’s why the United States chose a federal government over a confederacy.  The only solution is that Germany needs to take control of Europe.   Europe needs to be one entity because it now has two powerful enemies: Russia and the United States.  There is now an imminent likelihood that European territory, Greenland, will be invaded and occupied through force by the United States. 

France is the real master of Europe, and most of Europe have a Latin root language, the germans do not even have an army of a self sustaining way to generate their own needs in energy.
 

Edited Wednesday at 01:23 AM by AerisVahnEphelia

[Jodistrict]

46 minutes ago, AerisVahnEphelia said:

France is the real master of Europe, and most of Europe have a Latin root language, the germans do not even have an army of a self sustaining way to generate their own needs in energy.
 

That last time it took France a few weeks to surrender to Germany. The Germans need to throw off the shackles imposed after World War II and rearm for the sake of Europe.  

Edited Wednesday at 02:09 AM by Jodistrict

[Elliott]

On 1/4/2026 at 11:54 AM, NewKidOnTheBlock said:

Is this some sort of anarchist humor? I think I'm missing the funny part

Once we take Greenland(going to happen( no ones going to do shit about it)) we can then indiscriminately bomb Canada into being our latest tax paying territory. Then there's just no stopping us, Europe can either pay us or we'll easily just change regimes to ones that will.

Edited Wednesday at 05:06 AM by Elliott

[Elliott]

On 1/4/2026 at 7:01 PM, Basman said:

MAGA cultist brainrot.

"My dad gave your dad money 80 years ago and I want it back now."

I see nothing wrong with us getting our money back. Who gives a crap about what Europeans think.

[museumoftrees]

3 hours ago, Elliott said:

Once we take Greenland(going to happen( no ones going to do shit about it)) we can then indiscriminately bomb Canada into being our latest tax paying territory. Then there's just no stopping us, Europe can either pay us or we'll easily just change regimes to ones that will.

You have a scary war-encouraging rhetoric.

[AerisVahnEphelia]

8 hours ago, Jodistrict said:

That last time it took France a few weeks to surrender to Germany. The Germans need to throw off the shackles imposed after World War II and rearm for the sake of Europe.  

Yeh ok you don't understand history and France never lost even. Ask gpt why France is the real leader of eu. Have always been and never it was Germany neither the UK.

 

Copy this exact thing in gpt. 

[NewKidOnTheBlock]

6 hours ago, Elliott said:

Once we take Greenland(going to happen( no ones going to do shit about it)) we can then indiscriminately bomb Canada into being our latest tax paying territory. Then there's just no stopping us, Europe can either pay us or we'll easily just change regimes to ones that will.

 

6 hours ago, Elliott said:

I see nothing wrong with us getting our money back. Who gives a crap about what Europeans think.

Idk if you're trolling or ragebaiting or what you're trying to do, but just know that this is pretty much deleting any credibility you ever had on this forum (you never had one in the first place) lmfao just another weirdo. Either way; I wouldn't be so sure about nobody doing shit about anything, individual countries will defend themselves eventually if they are forced to and pushed enough, eventually military aliances would be formed. This is really crazy shit that Trump is thinking off doing, indeed the world is really retardmaxxing at the moment

[Elliott]

23 minutes ago, NewKidOnTheBlock said:

, individual countries will defend themselves eventually if they are forced to and pushed enough, 

LMAO, what piddly one of these countries is going to fight the u.s.? 🤣

[Elliott]

3 hours ago, museumoftrees said:

You have a scary war-encouraging rhetoric.

War is what has led to almost every major advancement in history, and freedom.

[NewKidOnTheBlock]

19 minutes ago, Elliott said:

LMAO, what piddly one of these countries is going to fight the u.s.? 🤣

You clearly have no idea how war works and how modern war works, at that; US does have the best profesional military on the planet on paper, however there is no political will in your country to turn it into a wartime economy because beoynd that profesional military US only consists of soy boys such as yourself

[Elliott]

2 minutes ago, NewKidOnTheBlock said:

You clearly have no idea how war works and how modern war works, at that; US does have the best profesional military on the planet on paper, however there is no political will in your country to turn it into a wartime economy because beoynd that profesional military US only consists of soy boys such as yourself

???

Look at all this money. New Golden age of America!!!

We're all going to be rich. Greenland minerals, Canada's oil, Europe's workers!

Edited Wednesday at 10:50 AM by Elliott

[ted73104]

1 minute ago, Elliott said:

???

Look at all this money. New Golden age of America!!!

The US has yet to conquer Venezuela. Even if the US does succeed in taking over Venezuela in a short time, it'll take 10 years to build the infrastructure to extract all that oil. By that time the Republicans would probably not be in power anymore and Venezuela could just take over the built infrastructure and nationalize it just like they did before.

I don't think China is just going to do nothing if Venezuela gets invaded either.

[Elliott]

3 minutes ago, ted73104 said:

The US has yet to conquer Venezuela. Even if the US does succeed in taking over Venezuela in a short time, it'll take 10 years to build the infrastructure to extract all that oil. By that time the Republicans would probably not be in power anymore and Venezuela could just take over the built infrastructure and nationalize it just like they did before.

I don't think China is just going to do nothing if Venezuela gets invaded either.

Yes, China protected Iraq so well too. 🙄

 

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