The US potentially attacking Europe

[Breathe]

Timothy Snyder posted these links yesterday. Sheesh

The Longest Suicide Note in American History:

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/2025/12/national-security-strategy-democracy/685270/?gift=hVZeG3M9DnxL4CekrWGK35ibcb27LjcQKIf6tB8WqQM

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Finally, although they do not name any states that might threaten America, the authors do focus on one enemy ideology. It is not Chinese communism, Russian autocracy, or Islamic extremism but rather European liberal democracy. This is what this radical faction really fears: people who talk about transparency, accountability, civil rights, and the rule of law. Not coincidentally, these are the same people whom the MAGA ideologues hate and dislike at home, the same people who are fighting to prevent MAGA from redefining the United States as a white ethnostate, who oppose the corruption of America’s democratic institutions, and who object when Trump’s friends, family, and tech allies redirect U.S. foreign policy to benefit their private interests.

European and American liberal democracy is so dangerous to their project, in fact, that the MAGA ideologues seem to be planning to undermine it. They don’t want to meddle in anyone’s internal politics anywhere else on the planet: “We seek good relations and peaceful commercial relations with the nations of the world without imposing on them democratic or other social change.” The glaring exception to this rule is in Europe. Here, it is now American policy to “help Europe correct its current trajectory,” language that implies that the U.S. will intervene to do so.

 

 

Vladimir Solovyov predicts that America and Russia will jointly attack Europe:

 

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I won't be surprised if at some point in time, combined groups of Russian-American combat troops will storm German, Belgian, French, and British cities

 

[Hojo]

Hopefully you guys protest if it happens.

[Breathe]

My question is, how did Europe not know this was coming? It's not like Trump was trying to hide his intentions, the fucker can't keep his mouth shut. The writing has been on the wall for almost a decade now.

[Schizophonia]

It’s a fantasy 

Edited December 20, 2025 by Schizophonia

[Elliott]

The u.s. needs to take back all the money it gave to europe after ww2, with interest. Together with Russia we can do this and liberate europe from marxists! It's the right thing to do, Europe is breaking the law! They're all drug dealers.

 

 

 

https://newsukraine.rbc.ua/news/us-lifts-sanctions-on-russia-s-military-suppliers-1766211320.html

"US lifts sanctions on Russia's military suppliers - What's behind decision

1 day ago — The lifting of US sanctions against companies involved in supplying equipment to Russia's military-industrial complex"

Edited December 21, 2025 by Elliott

[Ulax]

Bro, no drama, but the quote makes it look like you are quoting from the linked article. I'd suggest making it clear its your own view and not a quote from the link.

Edited December 21, 2025 by Ulax

[voxun]

 

4 hours ago, Elliott said:

The u.s. needs to take back all the money it gave to europe after ww2, with interest. Together with Russia we can do this and liberate europe from marxists! It's the right thing to do, Europe is breaking the law! They're all drug dealers.

 

 

 

https://newsukraine.rbc.ua

"US lifts sanctions on Russia's military suppliers - What's behind decision

1 day ago — The lifting of US sanctions against companies involved in supplying equipment to Russia's military-industrial complex"

 

It’s always amusing when people talk about Europe as if it were a single country. There is no such thing as one European liberal democracy. The European Union is neither a country nor a democracy; it is a bureaucratic structure made up of 27 member states, each with its own version of democratic rule.
Europe should also be expected to repay all the money it received from the United States you say—with interest. Good luck 😂. Most EU countries are already buried in debt, no better off than the U.S. itself.

But if Trump asks his money back we have a plan. We will send one of our idiot politicians to the oval office to call him "daddy" and we will be on his good side again.

Edited December 21, 2025 by voxun

[Elliott]

6 minutes ago, voxun said:

Ultimately there is not 1 European Liberal Democracy. The European Union is not a country nor a democracy,

 

 

 

A payment plan is in order!

 

 

Edited December 21, 2025 by Elliott

[Lord of Darkness]

IMF

[Jodistrict]

Germany needs to rearm itself and get some nuclear weapons.  

[NewKidOnTheBlock]

On 21. 12. 2025 at 5:35 PM, Elliott said:

The u.s. needs to take back all the money it gave to europe after ww2, with interest. Together with Russia we can do this and liberate europe from marxists! It's the right thing to do, Europe is breaking the law! They're all drug dealers.

 

 

 

https://newsukraine.rbc.ua/news/us-lifts-sanctions-on-russia-s-military-suppliers-1766211320.html

"US lifts sanctions on Russia's military suppliers - What's behind decision

1 day ago — The lifting of US sanctions against companies involved in supplying equipment to Russia's military-industrial complex"

Is this some sort of anarchist humor? I think I'm missing the funny part

[Basman]

According to Anders Nielsen, the Trump regime wants create a new world order where the world is split into three spheres of influence. The Americas for the US, Asia for China and Europe for Russia. A new era of imperialism.

Trump is envisioning the end game of the authoritarian movement, where he is part of an exclusive club of world leaders in an order where superpowers are free to dominate smaller countries.

 

[Basman]

On 12/21/2025 at 5:35 PM, Elliott said:

The u.s. needs to take back all the money it gave to europe after ww2, with interest.

MAGA cultist brainrot.

"My dad gave your dad money 80 years ago and I want it back now."

[Sea]

6 minutes ago, Basman said:

MAGA cultist brainrot.

"My dad gave your dad money 80 years ago and I want it back now."

I'm surprised that MAGA is popular on this forum. Or is it just people being satirical?

[Basman]

46 minutes ago, Sea said:

I'm surprised that MAGA is popular on this forum. Or is it just people being satirical?

Sentiment that could skew in an authoritarian direction isn't uncommon, like expressing distrust in democracy and economic insecurity.

Trump does acknowledge genuine societal issues that technocratic governments don't by virtue of these issue being systemic, but his solutions are simplistic sound bites that essentially amount to scape goating and are ultimately directed by whatever mood he is in as opposed to any principle grounded in politics. Trump will only make things worse while blaming his opponents for everything.

Like how the US government is propping up AI to hedge against a recession because it is the only growing sector. Trump doesn't want a recession while he is in term and therefor plans to illegally bail out OpenAI from all the debts they can't pay. He'll be out of office by the time the recession hits if he doesn't succeed at becoming dictator. Then he'll blame the then president for the recession like he blamed Joe Biden for the economic downturn post-covid. That's my analysis at least. 

Trump hates looking incompetent. He literally cannot take advice, like with the tariff debacle. No one could tell him that it was a stupid idea from head to toe. He would literally be richer if he had just invested his stocks into index funds and did nothing instead of trying to build a bunch of businesses. It's all about image for him.

Rant over.

Edited Monday at 12:54 AM by Basman

[Ajay0]

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I won't be surprised if at some point in time, combined groups of Russian-American combat troops will storm German, Belgian, French, and British cities

India has good strategic ties with the Russians and Americans. 

I am hoping such a scenario does not come to pass as they can pressure India, which has the second largest army and third most powerful air force on earth to join them in their rampages.

India should maintain its strategic autonomy and non-aligned state, and resist coercions to join them.

[BlueOak]

Russia are trying this angle to drive a wedge between the US and Europe. They are going to get increasingly desperate this year as they have dug a large hole for themselves economically, and their air defense is a joke now with Ukraine hitting them harder each month, but their propaganda is still pretty good as most people seem to be influenced by it, like this thread here. 

There is an outside chance of tensions over greenland, but its fairly low. This is coming from someone who dislikes America and hates trump currently.

It is correct; however, Trump is of a different ideology to most European leaders. However China is a bigger threat to their trade routes, while Europe is just ideologically not aligned with what I would call an authoritarian state in the making. Trump however is somewhat beholden to Russia, as they helped him get in power.

Edited Monday at 09:06 AM by BlueOak

[Breathe]

23 hours ago, Basman said:

The Americas for the US, Asia for China and Europe for Russia. A new era of imperialism

This is my first exposure to Anders but this is a really interesting video.

What he says makes sense but I don't know him and need to check other resources.

Damn. This is nuts.

[Basman]

 

[Breathe]

On 1/4/2026 at 8:21 PM, Basman said:

According to Anders Nielsen, the Trump regime wants create a new world order where the world is split into three spheres of influence. The Americas for the US, Asia for China and Europe for Russia. A new era of imperialism.

How might BRICS factor into this?