“How does a broke college Zoomer date in a society where all women are hypergamous?”

[EternalForest]

Well I can already tell you this is false because my friend works at a grocery store and gets girls all the time. Because they like him. Not his money, him.

And a lot of those girls also work at the grocery store, or fairly close by...

Edited 12 hours ago by EternalForest

[Natasha Tori Maru]

7 hours ago, aurum said:

@Theprofessional you are making excuses.

Nothing else needs to be said.

[aurum]

1 hour ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

Nothing else needs to be said.

[Spiral]

People do not treat you worse than you let them 

[Zenterus]

13 hours ago, Salvijus said:

Maybe you're from an older generation. Times are different now. I probably would agree with the professor here. 

Uh no. I'm 27 years old. Stop coming up with excuses dude. You can have those experiences too. Why are you choosing to be a victim?

[Zenterus]

12 hours ago, Theprofessional said:

@Majed I’m not even talking about pick up or any of that, I’m talking about pursuing a genuine relationship and building that over time. Something our parents all did really easily - probably too easily.

Whenever I meet a girl anywhere now, her first question is what my job is. Every time. And when I tell her I’m in college, she asks my major. And when I tell her my major is literature, she tunes out completely and stops talking to me.

Like, fair enough, I’m on a challenging path. But I do have a solid career plan that is going to make me a lot of money after college. But they don’t even stick around long enough in the conversation to get that far, ever. Pretty much every time.

They basically treat all of us like our worth as a person is directly only what is in our bank accounts, right now, today.

A woman who is genuinely attracted to you wouldn't even ask you such a question in a qualifying manner.

Dude, listen, you're wrong.

I'm saying this from love.

I know from first hand experience that your worldview is wrong.

I've dated women who worked within government, scientists, dentists, girls who have a lot of status in my city for being prevalent figures in the local dance/creative/fashion scene, etc.

All of these women treated me like a king. They did things for me that they wouldn't do for other men by their own admission. The government girl told me on the first date that she finds calling men "daddy" super cringe and that she is a very vanilla type of girl. Guess who was doing the exact opposite things with me 3 months later. 

Note: I was even unemployed when I was with the government girl 

Had a girl who told me that usually she doesn't care about being a little indecent in front of men (farting, burping, etc) but she felt apprehensive about being that way with me. 

I've even dated a known gold digger in my city. She's the type that only goes on dates with rich dudes, or so she appears to do so. This girl was hardcore flirting with me for weeks even though she knew I didnt have any real money or status. That situation was short-lived, I admit, cause her value system was repulsive to me.

I have so many more examples.

What matters is how you carry yourself as a man. It's the way you handle the dynamic within the relationship. The dominance, your strength, your ability to connect with her deeply as a woman.

If you're showing up correctly as a self respecting man, then that's all the respect that you need. 

In fact, most women that I know, make fun of men who use their resources as their main pull in relationships and often just use them for their money since they don't respect them.

Now, here's the thing..

I'm not saying money is bad. Money absolutely is important in life and in relationships and one should definitely strive to get their finances handled. Especially if you're planning on having a family one day.

But a high income and financial dependency is NOT needed for a woman to respect you and treat you well. 

 

[Salvijus]

1 hour ago, Zenterus said:

Stop coming up with excuses dude. You can have those experiences too

To have short term hook ups, yea, no problem, you can get laid even if you're homeless. But to be in a serious long lasting relationship, perhaps with a family and kids, a successful carrier is likely very important, if not the most important thing. But of course there will always be some exceptions with a small percentage of people. 

Edited 6 hours ago by Salvijus

[Zenterus]

48 minutes ago, Salvijus said:

To have short term hook ups, yea, no problem, you can get laid even if you're homeless. But to be in a serious long lasting relationship, perhaps with a family and kids, a successful carrier is likely very important, if not the most important thing. But of course there will always be some exceptions with a small percentage of people. 

Yes, if you want a family and kids, having money is a no brainer, practically speaking.

But this isnt what the thread is about.

This thread is about respect and how women treat you in long term relationships when you're not financially well off.

OP is claiming that money is needed for a woman to respect her man in a long term relationship and that is absolutely false.

Think of all the cliche stories (cliche cause they're true) of rich guys dating women who only use them for their money while secretly being emotionally committed to some broke guy living in the ghetto who she would do anything for.

Come on, man. Wake the fuck up, guys. All you have to do is literally go for a walk and start noticing the wide variety of men, from all backgrounds and classes, being in long tern relationships with beautiful women.

 

[Salvijus]

46 minutes ago, Zenterus said:

Think of all the cliche stories (cliche cause they're true) of rich guys dating women who only use them for their money while secretly being emotionally committed to some broke guy living in the ghetto who she would do anything

There's a reason that woman stays in a long term relationship with a rich guy and only have casual hookups with broke guys on a side. 

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This thread is about respect and how women treat you in long term relationships when you're not financially well off 

She will respect you, value you, maybe even sleep with you. But will she commit to a long life with you if you're chronically broke? I'm prone to saying no. Relationships are expensive. 

Edited 5 hours ago by Salvijus

[something_else]

43 minutes ago, Salvijus said:

She will respect you, value you, maybe even sleep with you. But will she commit to a long life with you if you're chronically broke?

Obv it helps to have money when it comes to long term relationships, but you don't need to be loaded like OP is arguing. You just need to have a stable income. If you're making at least the median income for your city/area you're doing absolutely fine and you will be able to find women who want to date you.

OP is arguing that you need to be like top 1% income in order to have any chance whatsoever at getting into a relationship as a guy, which is blatantly false.

[Salvijus]

16 minutes ago, something_else said:

Obv it helps to have money when it comes to long term relationships, but you don't need to be loaded like OP is arguing. You just need to have a stable income. If you're making at least the median income for your city/area you're doing absolutely fine and you will be able to find women who want to date you.

OP is arguing that you need to be like top 1% income in order to have any chance whatsoever at getting into a relationship as a guy, which is blatantly false.

Yea, I guess the number could be negotiated to be lower. I can agree with that.