What Will Happen to Most of Us When AI Takes Over?

[Thought Art]

@cistanche_enjoyer doubt it’

[Thought Art]

 

[Wilhelm44]

57 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Because they have no actual understanding of intelligence. All they are doing is feeding it data, but they have run out of data already. There just is not enough data on Earth to make AI more intelligent than it currently is. And data is not real intelligence because is leeches off human intelligence.

To make AGI they would need to actually crack the issue of intelligence, which they are not even working on.

They are deluded by their own hype, greed, and lust for power. The whole thing is a gross juvenile rationalist farce.

She seems to echo your sentiment.

My question is: Is the initial greedy gold rush not just a natural part of the process. Eventually bottle necks will be reached. And for these companies to remain relevant, they will be forced to address the question of deeper intelligence. You seem to imply that we will remain stuck at the initial greedy gold rush phase. Surely it is inevitable that that those deeper intelligence breakthroughs will follow eventually ?

[Leo Gura]

3 minutes ago, Wilhelm44 said:

She seems to echo your sentiment.

My question is: Is the initial greedy gold rush not just a natural part of the process. Eventually bottle necks will be reached. And for these companies to remain relevant, they will be forced to address the question of deeper intelligence. You seem to imply that we will remain stuck at the initial greedy gold rush phase. Surely it is inevitable that that those deeper intelligence breakthroughs will follow eventually ?

But we have no idea how long it will take to crack intelligence. Might be like hover cars.

Just because Elon Musk wants a hover car doesn't mean he can build one.

LLMs are like regular cars, and AGI is like hover cars. It is premature to start freaking out about hover cars.

Edited 1 hour ago by Leo Gura

[Wilhelm44]

38 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

But we have no idea how long it will take to crack intelligence. Might be like hover cars.

Just because Elon Musk wants a hover car doesn't mean he can build one.

What specifically do you mean by: cracking intelligence ? 

I don't think AI will ever be truly intuitive or original.

But there must be some fairly decent models of critical thinking, problem solving etc, that will help AI to get to the next level.

 

Edited 59 minutes ago by Wilhelm44

[Elliott]

The investments are mostly in infrastructure, not scientific research. The investments to get to AGI would be into places like M.I.T., not data centers.

The DotCom bubble was from an over-investment in infrastructure ,from companies like AT&T, fiber optics, networks, etc. These things helped later on, but they didn't have the operational costs of these data centers, not just utilization electricity, but even just the real estate. Investors are not going to keep their money tied up in businesses that don't turn a profit, there's actually profitable companies to invest in

The investments in the 90s internet or 1800s railroad or 1900s electrical grid were after the invention, not before.

Edited 1 hour ago by Elliott