Only way to Truth, and great conversation with Mellowmarsh

[James123]

8 minutes ago, Ramasta9 said:

That's interesting James, I am curious, how does that freedom show up when someone is hurting or when things get messy? 

Know that you are just some thoughts that claim ownership of body and mind, yet not even all the thoughts.

And there is a body and mind, perfect mechanicsm.

In any situation, will body react better or you, what do you think?

[Mellowmarsh]

17 minutes ago, Ramasta9 said:

That's interesting James, I am curious, how does that freedom show up when someone is hurting or when things get messy? 

The answer is so obvious, I’m surprised you missed it. 

[Mellowmarsh]

17 minutes ago, Ramasta9 said:

Hehe <3 Behold: The Machine Gun of Truth !

 

 

They won’t even know where to point their gun. 

[gettoefl]

On 24/11/2025 at 0:34 PM, Breakingthewall said:

@zazen about the distinction between essence and form. I'm going to explain as clear as I can.

There is only one essence and infinite potential forms, I suppose you'd agree. The point is understanding what the essence of everything is. Let me explain my point of view. At a certain point, you decide to delve deep within yourself, to seek enlightenment, because you sense that possibility, but nothing you read resonates completely. Then you become (at least I did) obsessed with meditation and psychedelics, going all in, no prisoners. 

Then those phases happen:

First, begin to see the structure of the self. You see that what you are is a node of tension, a center created by energetic layers based on genetic mechanisms of fear of destruction, attachment to the clan, and an absolute need to be accepted by the tribe. This is extremely powerful, and deactivating it is a great challenge.

Second, you are able to go beyond meaning, you can empty your mind completely, reach absolute silence without terror, then the void occurs. Reality is a transparent, superficial hologram, and beneath it there is only an infinite expanse of the void. It is extremely difficult to endure this; it is terrifying.

Third: at a certain point you realize that there is still a center observing the void; there is a subtle separation. Then the shift occurs: you realize you were looking outward, you change your focus, you look inward. You are something, what are you? It opens up. It is, metaphorically speaking, your heart. It contains everything. The infinite void is permeated by your substance. It has no limits, it is inexhaustible, it is everything. It is absolute totality. The form is not an hologram anymore, it's alive, full of life.

Then you realize that what your substance is is limitlessness; the absence of limits that you are translates into totality. Nothing is missing; you have always been that. What you are is outside of time; not  "happening." "Happen" is a possibility, an inevitable dance that occurs given the inherent instability of limitlessness. Nothing contains you; you are everything; nothing is missing; hallelujah, you are free.

Outstanding thanks. In meditation this is equivalent to going from I am that to I am to am. I work on such a practice each day and sometimes arrive. What you wrote is a solid simple explanation.

[VeganAwake]

I used to occasionally speak with Robert on the phone years ago when I was going through an awakening of sorts. He has since passed away but I always enjoyed his videos........check it out 

 

[Mellowmarsh]

I checked out the Robert Wolfe video.

 

Nice one.  Thanks for posting it. It reminded me that I'm the 'IT'' in the ''Check IT Out''   😊

 

IT being the outside in, or IT being the inside out. 🤷‍♀️

Edited 20 hours ago by Mellowmarsh

[Breakingthewall]

18 hours ago, gettoefl said:

Outstanding thanks. In meditation this is equivalent to going from I am that to I am to am. I work on such a practice each day and sometimes arrive. What you wrote is a solid simple explanation.

Happy that resonates

[VeganAwake]

6 hours ago, Mellowmarsh said:

I checked out the Robert Wolfe video.

 

Nice one.  Thanks for posting it. It reminded me that I'm the 'IT'' in the ''Check IT Out''   😊

 

IT being the outside in, or IT being the inside out. 🤷‍♀️

That IT which seems to be centered everywhere, isn't actually real 🤔 

Thats what nonduality is attempting to reveal. 

❤️ 

[Mellowmarsh]

18 minutes ago, VeganAwake said:

That IT which seems to be centered everywhere, isn't actually real 🤔 

Thats what nonduality is attempting to reveal. 

❤️ 

IT is not real. Because the not actually real revealed IT 

[James123]

35 minutes ago, VeganAwake said:

That IT which seems to be centered everywhere, isn't actually real 🤔 

Real or not real belongs to matrix.

[Mellowmarsh]

7 minutes ago, James123 said:

Real or not real belongs to matrix.

That which belongs to the matrix is a dreamt character, and a dreamt character cannot wake up from the dream. 🤔

 

What are Your thoughts on this ?

[VeganAwake]

7 hours ago, Mellowmarsh said:

IT is not real. Because the not actually real revealed IT 

Exactly IT'S unknowable in that sense 

[VeganAwake]

7 hours ago, Mellowmarsh said:

That which belongs to the matrix is a dreamt character, and a dreamt character cannot wake up from the dream. 🤔

 

What are Your thoughts on this ?

The word dreamt implies a dreamer.

The dreamer is the same illusion.

No dreamer, no dream character and no dream story/matrix........all unreal 

❤️ 

[VeganAwake]

7 hours ago, James123 said:

Real or not real belongs to matrix.

Can't say not real belongs to matrix.

The word "belongs" implies there is something real in which could belong to something else real.

The matrix isn't something real. It's a word describing the experience of apparent reality through the eyes of the conditioned self illusion.

It's essentially saying not real belongs to not real........which makes no sense!

Get your ass to nonduality school boy!

😉 

 

[James123]

36 minutes ago, VeganAwake said:

Can't say not real belongs to matrix.

The word "belongs" implies there is something real in which could belong to something else real.

The matrix isn't something real. It's a word describing the experience of apparent reality through the eyes of the conditioned self illusion.

It's essentially saying not real belongs to not real........which makes no sense!

Get your ass to nonduality school boy!

😉 

 

Real, not real, belongs, non duality, self illusion all is matrix or belongs to matrix. 

You make the non duality as belief. 

It is so funny that even spirituality is become like a political party 😊 

What a bullshit 😂 😂 😂 

[James123]

42 minutes ago, VeganAwake said:

Can't say not real belongs to matrix.

The word "belongs" implies there is something real in which could belong to something else real.

The matrix isn't something real. It's a word describing the experience of apparent reality through the eyes of the conditioned self illusion.

It's essentially saying not real belongs to not real........which makes no sense!

Get your ass to nonduality school boy!

😉 

 

Moreover, you say "get your ass to non duality school boy" and talk about spirituality?

You should start to learn firstly how to be better person, human then talk about spirituality. 

What a shame.

[VeganAwake]

1 hour ago, James123 said:

What a shame.

It was a Thanksgiving joke brother, thought someone from turkey would have a better sense of humor.......gobble gobble till ya wobble 🦃 

[James123]

35 minutes ago, VeganAwake said:

It was a Thanksgiving joke brother, thought someone from turkey would have a better sense of humor.......gobble gobble till ya wobble 🦃 

It can be a joke or serious, don't matter.

Forget even spirituality, Firstly you should be a good person. 

Abu'l-Hasan Harakani (d. 425/1033).

He said:

"For seventy years, I have been sweeping the road at the top of this mountain so that no dust or dirt will get on the feet of those who come here, and no thorns will prick them."

And he would tell his students: "I sweep this road for God, not for the sake of anyone passing by."