Understanding sexuality thread

[Hojo]

@Kid AHow is sex in the same category as shitting and breathing? Something aint right there. You can literally go years without sex even you whole life.

And employment? Its essential to a human being to be employed by a company? 

Edited 1 hour ago by Hojo

[Ramasta9]

Wanna know the highest level attainable? Living naturally and effortlessly. Not one or the other, but both.

You live life fully, meditate and be in cosmic bliss, while still making love, raising a family and living the householder life.

The greatest masters remain meditative, can be fully detached from the circumstances, but their beings are fully within the world.

It is true that the desire for sex can dissolve, but the need to make love and create a child is an entirely different thing.

Thus we must honour and follow what feels most natural for us and intuitive living each and every moment.

 

[Kid A]

24 minutes ago, Hojo said:

@Kid AHow is sex in the same category as shitting and breathing? Something aint right there. You can literally go years without sex even you whole life.

And employment? Its essential to a human being to be employed by a company? 

Just because sex is at the same level as shitting and eating doesn’t mean that they’re equally important. Sex is probably more important than everything above though.

It’s security of employment. It means that if you’re employed somewhere, it’s important that the job provides security and not for example constant worry about losing it, unstable income or working conditions, etc.

[Adrian colby]

2 hours ago, Someone here said:

love ..intimacy..intimate sex etc is literally God itself .i

It’s not ‘the one’, it’s ‘oneness’. I understand what you are referencing here and I’ve experienced it both with and without another person. The state itself is certainly, energetically orgasmic but it is not god itself. it’s a likeness of a god state.

Mystical unity is an experience of consciousness, and consciousness does not suddenly depend on genital dimorphism to reach non-duality.

If that were true, intersex people, queer people, trans people, celibates, mystics, and entire traditions of monks would be metaphysically barred from God.

This clearly isn’t the case.

Sex can express unity — it is not the source of unity.

People contain both masculine and feminine potentials within their own psyche.Jung, Tantra, Taoism, Hermeticism, and even the Platonic tradition all make this explicit.No external partner is required to complete an internal polarity.

After years of deliberately avoiding anything to do with sex because I was born with a DSD, I went from hating anything to do with it to unconsciously exploring it out of desire. On the run up to my awakening, I was celibate for several years and certainly very peaceful and had a God realisation during that time. 

on the return journey I realised I’d made the mistake most Buddhists make by completely dismissing reality as an illusion and bypassing the experience of everything I had deconstructed to get a glimpse of the source. After reintegrating and understanding the facets of reality and that it is there literally for the infinite exploration of conscious experience, I understood ‘meaning and purpose’ in a reality with no inherent meaning or purpose. My choice to explore and be and that path for each person is personal. What is sacred to me is not to someone else. God doesn’t need to explore the same thing through every being.

men going their own way and feminism in its own right is not deluded, but extremes of them are, due to extreme polarity bias separating from its opposite instead of realising it exists in contrast ( the whole). From personal experience, when I stopped projecting need for attention and intimacy onto my wife and instead turned the energetic flow of ‘love’ back into myself, it became a healing self love that completed and fulfilled me without the need of another. My wife did not need to do or be anything for me to love her because I was already in that state. It opened my heart and overflowed meaning there was love there for whoever came into my space. There’s a difference in love as projection and love as being. When I realised that state, my wife became more attracted to me. She felt safe and actually loved because she wasn’t being ‘needed’ or expected of. That made me, my personality and mood more stable and confident which was perceived as a strength to her. It also fully awakened my sexuality which in contrast before was completely shut down. It gave me an animation and vitality I’d never had before. However it is a very volatile energy that can not only create but destroy and too many gurus fall into manipulation to satisfy themselves. I am now a very sexual, sensual and intimate person ( that energy is there with or without others, male, female, anything in between, doesn’t matter) but it takes remaining conscious of internal psychological mechanism to not fall back into projection. The one thing that doesn’t happen is that even if I have moments of very strong urge, desire or desperation to experience intimacy with someone, my conscience won’t allow me to carry out any act of manipulation for my own satisfaction purely because I would never want to experience a unity with someone that didn’t genuinely want to connect at a deeper level with me. To me it is sacred, to me it’s god loving itself but that doesn’t mean it is to someone else. 

sex can mean very different things to different people. Many people do not obsess over sex. Trauma, conditioning, developmental stage, culture, and personal lived experience all drastically shift the role sex plays in someone’s psyche. It might be god to someone and absolute hell leading to suicide for someone else…

Sex and intimacy can be sacred but only when approached consciously.They are not intrinsically sacred by default. People can experience unity through, meditation, contemplation, breath, stillness, creativity, service, psychedelic states, mystical encounters, emotional intimacy or through sex. Sex is one path among many.Beautiful, powerful, transformative — yes.

Ontologically necessary — no.The danger is when something deeply meaningful to one person is assumed to be a cosmic law for everyone else.

 

 

 

 

[Hojo]

@Kid AOh I didnt see the colon. I would still move sex up to number 3 beside sexual intimacy. Because its not the same as breathing or shitting. If you dont do these regularly you will die, if you dont have sex regularly you wont die.

I would switch the word from employment to income.

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[Schizophonia]

1 hour ago, Someone here said:

No seriously what do you study or work as ? Incredibly knowledgeable in these kinds of things despite being young .

It's because i cheat; my parents support me and i am not very sociable so i have all the time for thinking while walking in nature, watching videos, and flirting with swedish girls online  

Most of my knowledge about psychology comes from Franck Lopvet and Lacan/Freud; Franck is really the french peter raltson; I should contact him to interview him as a tribute.

Just like Leo did with Peter actually. 

Edited 46 minutes ago by Schizophonia

[Schizophonia]

1 hour ago, Someone here said:

@Schizophonia The fuss about the word "need" lol.

A male only Upon his death he stops making Testosterone. Males will make Testosterone through the Testicles as long as he is alive. As males age..their Testosterone levels decline but a 90 year old man should still have a Testosterone level of 300. Whereas a Teenager would have a number up near 1000. Now there are factors such as injury to the Testicles...deformities..cancer..die.. smoking etc that can or will effect the levels of horniness but as long as he's breathing, he should still be making Testosterone . 

Would you mind answering this simple question for me ..are you able to pop a boner (get hard ) and maintain  that erection for few minutes?

Again contemplate what you are doing.

You are trying to humiliate me by talking about testosterone; tacitly suggesting that it's because i would have less testosterone than you that i don't understand how not getting sex isn't a "serious problem". 

It's yet another way to keep your head held high and avoid to take responsibility for your desire.

 

Regarding testosterone   low libido isn't necessarily a sign of low testosterone; It's more often depression, erectile dysfunction, and physical abnormalities like man boobs and/or visceral fat that indicate a low testosterone.

Edited 37 minutes ago by Schizophonia