Thought Art

What if the one thing you actually want to do won’t pay the bills?

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I just have to deal with reality. I have to put in the work. I’m gonna die anyway. If I can’t make the dream real… I just like this life is bad. Next…


 "Unburdened and Becoming" - Bon Iver

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@Elliott Most people aren’t that good. Local people by definition aren’t world class. They are likely wage slavers too so who cares. 

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 "Unburdened and Becoming" - Bon Iver

                            ◭"89"

                  

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10 minutes ago, Thought Art said:

@Elliott Most people aren’t that good. 

I agree, even superstars, many aren't exceptional. Honestly, a lot of small time artists are better in my experience. I just notice the older people still playing for the music seem to be the best, technically, to me, they're maestros, magicians, usually having an exceptionally unique and irreplicable sound.

Have you noticed, younger musicians tend to sound more similar, to me. Musicians, the non-superstar type at least, age like fine wine in my experience.

 

Either way, I'm not trying to dissuade you. I'm only trying to help you see what i think is a lie you're believing thats causing you distress. I think you can make money playing, maybe not super-stardom. But it sounds like you may not have put much focus on monetizing your playing. I think you're good enough to make money at festivals and pricey local venues.

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56 minutes ago, Human Mint said:

Then how come @Thought Art wants to kill himself and I don't?

Unfulfillment appears in many different ways doesn't have to appear as wanting to kill yourself. You're seeking for other stuff, right. There's a 'next' in your book right. If I could just get that, .....then I'll be. It's disguised as many ideas....,spirituality, religion, being ambitious, striving for, a sense of need and want...that's all unfulfillment in disguise. He just expresses his as hopelessness and a need of not wanting to be here since his craving for a better experience seems far away and unreachable. 


What you know leaves what you don't know and what you don't know is all there is. 

 

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I feel you

I had to bite the bullet a long time ago and designed a plan for making the right ecosystem for my dreams to blossom. 

5 years in

10 more years to go 

I have a fifteen year plan to get to where I want. Saying you want something but not doing all the preliminary work to get it means either you don't want it or that you're lacking the vision and values to actualize your dreams. This video was eye opening and I've been applying it everyday and steering my life based on its principles:

 

It's important to get a high paying job that makes a meaningful impact on society. I said to myself what is the job that I like the most that pays the most, and found the sweet spot correlation of those axis. This is crucial. 

Another key point is to connect your job with your passion (you forgot music hence you soul starved to death and now is crying from the darks of your psyche). If you have a vision and see, I'm working 5 years to get X money so that I can be 1 year pursuing full time music, then that gives meaning to everyday of your job. Moreover, its important you do music every week, why? Because it's the lubricant of your life. When I started this plan every year was a grind, till I realized how to find time to work on my passion while I worked on the infrastructure. In this way I found a balance.

It's really hard, but there's a way, there's always a way. Have hope brother.

Lots of love❤️

Davino


God-Realize, this is First Business. Know that unless I live properly, this is not possible.

There is this body, I should know the requirements of my body. This is first duty.  We have obligations towards others, loved ones, family, society, etc. Without material wealth we cannot do these things, for that a professional duty.

There is Mind; mind is tricky. Its higher nature should be nurtured, then Mind becomes Wise, Virtuous and AWAKE. When all Duties are continuously fulfilled, then life becomes steady. In this steady life GOD is available; via 5-MeO-DMT, because The Sun shines through All: Living in Self-Love, Realizing I am Infinity & I am God

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54 minutes ago, Thought Art said:

I do art for success and money so I can make more. I’m not the only human.

Then that’s your problem. Your main motivation for art shouldn’t have anything to do with money but rather mastery. You’re chasing something that will never bring you fulfillment. Doing art for money is a recipe for depression. You still haven’t answered the question of what you would do if you were the last human on earth. Will success and money really matter and be a motivator for you? Why do you want money and success in the first place if you have no intrinsic motivation? It’s no different than a rat chasing cheese at this point. Why do you need others validation for art? Which one is more important to you: Others validation/money or art for its own sake? Money should be a means not the end.

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“Our most valuable resource is not time, but rather it is consciousness itself. Consciousness is the basis for everything, and without it, there could be no time and no resource possible. It is only through consciousness and its cultivation that one’s passions, one’s focus, one’s curiosity, one’s time, and one’s capacity to love can be actualized and lived to the fullest.” - r0ckyreed

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Every response has been very helpful. Thank you all. 
 

@r0ckyreed Truly, it’s absolute motivation. I don’t care about money and success but as a means to an end. 

I want to play shows… 

making music fills me with deep joy

slavery make me depressed 

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 "Unburdened and Becoming" - Bon Iver

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Just now, Thought Art said:

Every response has been very helpful. Thank you all. 

You’re welcome. Keep up the good work :)

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25 minutes ago, Davino said:

I have a fifteen year plan to get to where I want.

Glorious Five Year Plan, eh? Awesome post. Though I wonder if it really has to be structured this way, given the right circumstances. Got a few ideas on that front that I'd like to discuss when you're available. Perhaps there's some fantasy in my outlook to be cut through that is seen from an outside perspective.


Whichever way you turn, there is the face of God

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1 hour ago, LambdaDelta said:

Glorious Five Year Plan, eh?

More like a (healthy) torture but I successfully finished phase 1, which has already put me in one of the best financial positions for my age.

Next 5 year phase is of immense professional growth. When it finishes I'll go live to a very convenient country, get a technologically executive job in the banking system and buy a house.

Triggering the last 5 year phase of money amalgamation, paying the house and building solid investments.

Around 35 years old, the transition will start, to fully live from my passion, by my own rules and autonomously, e. g. being my own boss.

I don't know every little detail and I'm building a rocket as I fly, but I do have important milestones and chapters that will unfold in my life.

1 hour ago, LambdaDelta said:

Though I wonder if it really has to be structured this way, given the right circumstances. Got a few ideas on that front that I'd like to discuss when you're available. Perhaps there's some fantasy in my outlook to be cut through that is seen from an outside perspective.

I find it very hard to have an awesome life without very careful planning and execution. I currently work advising multimillion dollar companies and that's the vision you should have for your life. They have long term, mid term and short term visions and execution processes. You ain't gonna get to the top positions without immense intelligence and sacrifice. It takes a lot, but it also gives a lot and I don't want it any other way. I love the grind, I love the nightless sleeps, the doubts, the sacrifice. I love it and I wanna live it All in my life. I've rejected a fortune to live by my values and walk my own path, my talk is not empty rhetoric. There's just two priorities in my life: Living the best human life and Infinite Godly Consciousness. And I'll fulfil both to the best of my capabilities and that's my drive, the reason why I wake up every morning and why I'm writing this post.

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God-Realize, this is First Business. Know that unless I live properly, this is not possible.

There is this body, I should know the requirements of my body. This is first duty.  We have obligations towards others, loved ones, family, society, etc. Without material wealth we cannot do these things, for that a professional duty.

There is Mind; mind is tricky. Its higher nature should be nurtured, then Mind becomes Wise, Virtuous and AWAKE. When all Duties are continuously fulfilled, then life becomes steady. In this steady life GOD is available; via 5-MeO-DMT, because The Sun shines through All: Living in Self-Love, Realizing I am Infinity & I am God

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7 hours ago, Thought Art said:

The truth is, life is a badly designed nightmarish shithole.

I think this is just a frame/idea that you've invested a lot of emotion in. Not making such hasty claims could spare you some suffering and will prevent you from spiraling down even deeper into negativity

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Despite seemingly unpopular opinion, I am with @Thought Art here. We seem to be the same age.

At some point, after trying your best for years and years, you just need to say fuck it to trying to break free from wage slavery - and just go for your dream. Otherwise, what the hell is the point of life?

Now of course, ignoring your survival needs completely is dysfunctional. That much is obvious. But taking care of survival + trying to break free from wage slavery on your free time? How long can you do this? How long can you prolong going after your dreams? At some point, you are too old to even have the juice left to bootstrap yourself, if you haven't already by then.

Now top all of this with the fact that people here like me have over a decade of personal, psychological, moral and spiritual work done. What this means is that at this point it is extremely hard to go back to stage orange and try to make money the way they do. At this point it is very hard to delude yourself, to lie to others, to mislead, to do unconscious marketing and sales.

What is left then? To do conscious business, marketing and sales. And what does it look like in practice?

Your dream. Your purpose. Your love.

 


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56 minutes ago, Sobanya said:

I think this is just a frame/idea that you've invested a lot of emotion in. Not making such hasty claims could spare you some suffering and will prevent you from spiraling down even deeper into negativity

Man look around. Reality is a shithole. 
 

That’s why music matters…

Why Qigong matters and freedom.

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 "Unburdened and Becoming" - Bon Iver

                            ◭"89"

                  

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