What if the one thing you actually want to do won’t pay the bills?

[Leo Gura]

@Thought Art Meaning comes from doing hard things.

If it was easy it would be meaningless, like AI slop music. It is worthless.

Maybe become a real estate agent. It is easy work and the pay is good. Don't quit so easily.

Edited 5 hours ago by Leo Gura

[Thought Art]

@Elliott When I see actual artists like Arcadefire or Bon Iver… that’s what I want. 
 

But, this idea that not only do I have to figure out how to make world class music but I gotta find some bullshit way to make money, on top of keeping the current bullshit job I have…. And somehow date girls… and it’s all too much .

[Thought Art]

@Leo Gura I got derailed for a couple years from music. I regret that. I feel behind. 
 

I really hate reality. I hate my life, circumstances, and my past. It’s garbage. I see great artists and I feel so shitty about myself. 
 

I feel like I have all this potential inside me. I feel like it’s never gonna be realized because I’m already 30. 

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[Leo Gura]

@Thought Art Some Owen Cook videos would be good for you. You are lacking that Stage Orange fire in your belly.

[Thought Art]

@Leo Gura I’ve watched them. And taken a course. 

[Leo Gura]

2 minutes ago, Thought Art said:

@Leo Gura I got derailed for a couple years from music. I regret that. I feel behind. 
 

I really hate reality. 

Dude, I quit my game design career just to make money to make the games I wanted. It was a many year detour.

Edited 5 hours ago by Leo Gura

[Leo Gura]

1 minute ago, Thought Art said:

@Leo Gura I’ve watched them. And taken a course. 

Well, watch again cause you didn't learn the lesson.

Learning a lesson can take many tries.

[Elliott]

13 minutes ago, Thought Art said:

@Elliott I could… I tried cold calling companies once and realized I am not built for that. 
 

I don’t know. Everything is hard. 

If I knew how, I would. I’m confused as to what works. 
 

If I knew a way to get corporate clients I would. I have taught in offices before and had good results. 

I would try letters to HR departments, they do corporate retreats and team building workshops like that.

[Thought Art]

@Leo Gura I have a fire in my belly alright. But, it’s not for money alone. I wanna make music and be make the best music in the world and be commercially successful. I’m already 30. This might mean my life is over. I don’t know from the sounds of it there is little hope from you guys. I’ve played festivals, hundreds of open mic’s, written hundreds of songs, but not properly recorded them which I regret. I’ve recorded some and I do have a plan to release my next album this year. I have my gear list, and the songs are pretty well written I just gotta record them.  I want to make music. 
 

I make 5-6k a month and have no rent or food costs currently. I’m getting out of debt and I’m making music. Fuck everything else. I’m gonna live life my way.

Edited 5 hours ago by Thought Art

[Thought Art]

@Elliott That’s a good idea. I wonder if they read them. Letters or emails. Hmm, this feels more tangible than digital. I sold a course for 600$ this year, but spent 650$ on the studio time for making the content. 
 

and, when I launched my subscription service https://effortless-qigong-elevate.mvt.so/

Only 2 people signed up so far and only one actually paid. But, I’m gonna refund her because I can’t upkeep it while working in these work camps. I need more marketing and content. I need more skill and knowledge. I just need 600 people to sign up. I want to offer weekly live classes etc. 

it’s so frustrating to have to work on something else (my job) which is the most I can earn and save compared to anything else I can do. But, in this chapter I can’t really build this thing. 

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[Natasha Tori Maru]

The way I learned (learned the fucken hard way) to get what I want done?

Endless, nonstop & relentless follow-up.

Its not any advice someone wants to hear.

But this is the only way to get projects accomplished on-time and within budget.

Kill them with kindness and be ruthless with action.

First it might help to know what you want, though. Values assessment.

Edited 5 hours ago by Natasha Tori Maru

[Elliott]

14 minutes ago, Thought Art said:

I feel like I have all this potential inside me. I feel like it’s never gonna be realized because I’m already 30. 

Do you know DaVinci didn't get a breakthrough in his career until his 30s.

 

 

Perhaps you're just missing a little balance in your life, to make a day job more palatable. Maybe a girlfriend or something like that will let you be more at ease, and patient.

Edited 5 hours ago by Elliott

[Thought Art]

@Elliott Can’t date because I work in remote locations. Had a girl I was sleeping with this summer but she got 2 boyfriends. I chose to stop talking after our time ended working together. 

What I really need is some fucking success. So, I gotta figure that out. 
 

I might even give up on escaping wage slavery first cuz I feel like that is gonna drain what “youth” I have left. 
 

I know I can whine all I want but a brick wall is a brick wall. 

Edited 5 hours ago by Thought Art

[Thought Art]

16 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Well, watch again cause you didn't learn the lesson.

Learning a lesson can take many tries.

I need less watching more action. 
 

I want success in music. Not to just make it after I become rich. But, I want to tour, play large crowds, and make the fucking best music and feelings in the WORLD. If I can’t do it I hope I die tomorrow. 
 

God, send me a sign. Or just fucking kill me already let’s not waste anymore time. 
 

Anyway, instead of making music I am doing this…. Time for bed cuz I gotta get up and carry fucking cables through the woods. No days off. We working men round here. 
 

Gonna try to destress and sleep. 
My shitty life as a failure wage slave. 

Edited 4 hours ago by Thought Art

[Elliott]

2 minutes ago, Thought Art said:

@Elliott Can’t date because I work in remote locations. Had a girl I was sleeping with this summer but she got 2 boyfriends. I chose to stop talking after our time ended working together. 

What I really need is some fucking success. So, I gotta figure that out. 
 

I might even give up on escaping wage slavery first cuz I feel like that is gonna drain what “youth” I have left. 
 

I know I can whine all I want but a brick wall is a brick wall. 

Ya, wage slavery is not as big a problem as it can seem. If you're looking for a down to earth girl too you can team up and share expenses. Life is long, plenty of time for money.

[Thought Art]

@Elliott No girls here. But, this is just a chapter. In time…. 

 

But… I want to honour this life. I want to honour my hearts calling. 
 

I want a girlfriend. I want a music career. 
 

Being a wage slave, or even a slave to simply escaping wage slavery over 10 years is not living. It’s a stupid nightmare. 

 

God, this is badly designed universe. There is no other way to explain it. Life should be good. 
 

Life is actually very very short. So short. Stupidly short. 
 

See, it’s not just the length of time you live but you have a biological clock. A 60 year old man just isn’t as good musically as a 25 year old. It’s just the way it is. 

Edited 4 hours ago by Thought Art

[Thought Art]

26 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Dude, I quit my game design career just to make money to make the games I wanted. It was a many year detour.

You don’t make games. 

[Thought Art]

I want to make the best music in the world and be commercially successful. 

Edited 4 hours ago by Thought Art

[Elliott]

15 minutes ago, Thought Art said:

@Elliott Ain’t no girls in the middle of but fuck nowhere. But, this is just a chapter. In time…. 

Only thing is… when I date and I like I girl I have to endure my massive trauma. It’s healing but always hard. Harder emotionally and full of cognitive distortions. My parents did their best but fucked me up. I feel like so much of my potential has been wasted simply due to trauma. I’ve healed and grown so much over the years. Which, I know sounds weird cuz I’m in this state. 
 

But… I want to honour this life. I want to honour my hearts calling. 
 

I want a girlfriend. I want a music career. 
 

I’m not sure I’m strong enough. Or young enough. Or, if there is any path at all for me. 
 

Being a wage slave, or even a slave to simply escaping wage slavery over 10 years is not living. It’s a stupid nightmare. 
 

God, this is badly designed universe. There is no other way to explain it. Life should be good. 

You'll probably have some unique overtones with everything you do, from your experiences, though.

 

Life can be good, best thing to fuck is materialism. As much as you can let go of, of what you think you want but don't really need, it's just a bunch of additional obstacles you create for yourself.

 

 

35 minutes ago, Thought Art said:

@Leo Gura I have a fire in my belly alright. But, it’s not for money alone. I wanna make music and be make the best music in the world and be commercially successful. I’m already 30. This might mean my life is over. I don’t know from the sounds of it there is little hope from you guys. I’ve played festivals, hundreds of open mic’s, written hundreds of songs, but not properly recorded them which I regret. I’ve recorded some and I do have a plan to release my next album this year. I have my gear list, and the songs are pretty well written I just gotta record them.  I want to make music. 

Do you try to sell your music yet, like to bigger festivals or paying venues?

[Leo Gura]

9 minutes ago, Thought Art said:

I want to make the best music in the world and be commercially successful. 

This requires insane motivation and persistence. Not a loser's attitude.