Curing all diseases & Biological Immortality - Backed by Zuckerberg

[Natasha Tori Maru]

17 minutes ago, LoneWonderer said:

@LordFall How could corruption even begin to allow such a world of abundance to come about? The haves up to now have always found ways to keep the have nots in servitude somehow. That is what capitalism is based on. Everybody claims a time of abundance is coming but I don't see any way of this actually happening. Artificial scarcity will be invented and you'll be forced to keep playing the survival game even though abundance could be guaranteed for all. Even today if we really wanted to we could create abundance for all...but no, some people collect all the resources through the labour of others. That is capitalism core engine driver, Elon Musk's 1 trillion dollar pay package while all over the world over 1 billion people live below the poverty line.

CHANGE MY MIND ON THIS I beg of you. There is nothing more in the world I wish for than abundance for all.

Gotta say I agree with this - would like to see a genuine answer.

[Eskilon]

4 hours ago, LordFall said:

Capitalism is a beautiful system

So beautiful a system that relies on exploitation of others, capitalism is basically modern slavery. The fact that we dont have an UBI yet is laughable.

Money is not scarce, in fact it doesnt even exist. It is not tied to anything; in the past it was tied to gold but nowdays its literally pixels on your screen that could be changed at will if banks wanted. The bank lends money that it doesnt have in reserve, get that shit. People are only poor because banks want them to be poor to maintain power.

4 hours ago, LordFall said:

rom late stage capitalism dystopia to collective ownership of global wealth through blockchain. It is inevitable

You dont know that. You are way too optimistic about this Ai stuff and tech in general. It seems that you dont understand human nature very well.

 

 

Edited 5 hours ago by Eskilon

[Natasha Tori Maru]

5 minutes ago, Eskilon said:

So beautiful a system that relies on exploitation of others, capitalism is basically modern slavery. The fact that we dont have an UBI yet is laughable.

Money is not scarce, in fact it doesnt even exist. It is not tied to anything; in the past it was tied to gold but nowdays its literally pixels on your screen that could be changed at will if banks wanted. The bank lends money that it doesnt have in reserve, get that shit. People are only poor because banks want them to be poor to maintain power.

You dont know that. You are way too optimistic about this Ai stuff and tech in general. It seems that you dont understand human nature very well.

A lot of people get sold on dreams and magical thinking from individuals at the top of the system. I wish them well and hope they make breakthroughs. But I am always looking for the grift. And the is ALWAYS a grift

Shhh, don't tell him about how money works - popping the balloon of happy ignorance

 

[Ramasta9]

6 hours ago, LordFall said:

@Ramasta9 I don't think you've thought about this idea enough as your points seem to be very shallow and delusional. If you believe you can cure diseases already please share your findings with the greater population and you will be soon a multibillionaire. 

Why would you not be yourself after living 200 years? 

Try to think outside of your limited paradigm and I'm quite confident that you'll also come to the conclusion that biological immortality is the obvious future of the human race. Biological limitations and your cells dying is not a beautiful spiritual progress my guy, it's just a lack of efficiency that's about to be remedied. 

You cant sell true health, nor buy me out. Its not a belief, its a knowing, immutable, universal. If you knew how the system actually worked you would understand why all those who exposed the false medical science and modern health systems were silenced, because there cannot be any profit in natural methods that actually work. A simple example is Fasting. The body is infinitely intelligent if you can surrender fully and allow it to do its thing.

The issue is, we are always trying to control or manipulate in some way, either physically, emotionally, mentally, technologically, chemically ect... we are still "resisting" creation, which prevents true healing and regeneration. Its all possible, even physical immortality is possible, but as I said before, with your "programming" and "framework" will never find or figure it out, because its not something you can learn, or even know, its an understanding.

When i say Understanding of Nature I mean The Universe At Large. Nature / Tao is not purely physical, it is the very nature of existence itself.

I am already outside that viewpoint, it is you who is still within a limited perspective, still within the collective-program, which i have broke free from long ago. Its simply a way of life you have to surrender too, but it requires you to drop everything you've learned since the day you were born.

Our cells actually regenerate faster than they decay when we are in full alignment or if we allow them too. We transcend exactly when we are ready to, not a single moment earlier, not a single moment later. Not everyone is meant to live for 50 thousand years, often a few hundred years is enough, then you wake up to greater ways to live beyond the confines of the body/mind. 120 is old for the western world, yet in the east 200 is quite common.

Globally there are people even older, but you won't find them or meet them on the trajectory you are on, its a completely different wavelength. When you can tune to the correct frequency, things will start to make sense in a completely different way. Until then its always going to be black and white. Something needs to be tasted or glimpsed at least...

 

Edited 3 hours ago by Ramasta9

[LordFall]

@Ramasta9 Find me one source that says people live to 200 in the east, I think you're being mislead by falsified records out of Japan for tax purposes. 

@LoneWonderer How come children are protected by labor laws and we don't have to work 14 hours a day anymore? Progress has already been made and plenty is more yet to come. Random pessimism is not intellectual wisdom it's just basic fear reaction of the mind. 

@Eskilon How many businesses have you tried to start? How good are your sales skills? Worry about that before becoming a armchair economist cringe socialist please. 

Capitalism is a complicated system of societal organization and to just blanket label it as exploitation of others is so intellectually lazy that I find it hard to engage with the point seriously. 

[Ramasta9]

@LordFall The issue is you rely on "sources"/external validations, which I do not rely on, which have no true ground, rather I am attempting to show you to tune-into "Source". Only then you will see and realize the greater Truth of the matter.

Its a completely different paradigm I don't think you are seeing or can make sense. I could be a thousand years young for all you know

Edited 3 hours ago by Ramasta9

[NewKidOnTheBlock]

4 minutes ago, Ramasta9 said:

@LordFall The issue is you rely on "sources"/external validations, which I do not rely on, which have no true ground, rather I am attempting to show you to tune-into "Source". Only then you will see and realize the greater Truth of the matter.

Its a completely different paradigm I don't think you are seeing or can make sense. I could be a thousand years young for all you know

How can we argue over anything then, if you can just make stuff up and claim it is something real and objective? I can also claim that my johnson is the size of an octopuses arm, that could also be true for all you know?

[Ramasta9]

4 minutes ago, NewKidOnTheBlock said:

How can we argue over anything then, if you can just make stuff up and claim it is something real and objective? I can also claim that my johnson is the size of an octopuses arm, that could also be true for all you know?

It is not made up, the proof is out there, but I cannot simply hand it to you, (it doesn't work that way), nor I have to go around digging for what is already known and obvious, rather you have to discover the truth and align with it first, which then attracts the outer reflections you may or may not need. If you are not in alignment, even if i laid it out in front of you, you will still not see it. Welcome to the universe, its paradoxically so.

Edited 2 hours ago by Ramasta9

[Natasha Tori Maru]

1 hour ago, LordFall said:

@Eskilon How many businesses have you tried to start? How good are your sales skills? Worry about that before becoming a armchair economist cringe socialist please. 

Capitalism is a complicated system of societal organization and to just blanket label it as exploitation of others is so intellectually lazy that I find it hard to engage with the point seriously. 

How about yourself? I've run 2 business' - current one is commercial construction and quite successful.

When you really run a business - you learn how corrupt the system is and how it runs on exploitation. You have to use that same system against itself to win, which just further fucks over those at the bottom. All the leverage points sit where weakness is, and almost every business needs to exploit them to survive. 

Construction is a fucken REAL business and one of the most corrupt. It's also the bedrock of humanity. 

There's nothing you can put forth that will change my mind after having worked this industry for half a decade.

[NewKidOnTheBlock]

1 hour ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

How about yourself? I've run 2 business' - current one is commercial construction and quite successful.

When you really run a business - you learn how corrupt the system is and how it runs on exploitation. You have to use that same system against itself to win, which just further fucks over those at the bottom. All the leverage points sit where weakness is, and almost every business needs to exploit them to survive. 

Construction is a fucken REAL business and one of the most corrupt. It's also the bedrock of humanity. 

There's nothing you can put forth that will change my mind after having worked this industry for half a decade.

You actual RUN a construction business, not just being employed there? That's actually pretty cool. Having achieved that, you unironically might be the most accomplished mod there's ever been here LOL