Are you denying the existence of hell?

[MellowEd]

Here are some testimonies. Are they all telling lies? How do you explain their experience?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Natasha Tori Maru]

Well yeah because that is just a concept.

One person's hell is another person's heaven.

So there's something up there isn't there? It appears as if an objective hell doesn't exist. 

All you linked above is hearsay 

[MellowEd]

1 minute ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

Well yeah because that is just a concept.

One person's hell is another person's heaven.

So there's something up there isn't there? It appears as if an objective hell doesn't exist. 

All you linked above is hearsay 

Did you watch any of it ?

[Natasha Tori Maru]

2 minutes ago, MellowEd said:

Did you watch any of it ?

They had their head experiences for sure, but are they now telling a story that is their interpretation? 

[MellowEd]

2 minutes ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

They had their head experiences for sure, but are they now telling a story that is their interpretation? 

Who else's ?

Edited 20 hours ago by MellowEd

[Natasha Tori Maru]

Just now, MellowEd said:

Who elses ?

The meaning making and interpretation are the parts that can be compromised - not the direct experience 

[MellowEd]

2 minutes ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

The meaning making and interpretation are the parts that can be compromised - not the direct experience 

Brilliant answer

[theoneandnone]

Religious fear mongering! Also the devil isn’t real! Hail Satan!

 

 

 

okay but without me being an asshole I mean you do have a point though there definitely are hellish NDEs part of me thinks it’s peoples subconscious fear guilt etc….

its why some NDEs have Buddha… Jesus allauh etc

Edited 19 hours ago by theoneandnone

[MellowEd]

 

[Aaron p]

I'm very sure at this point that the physical pictures of hell and heaven (a firey pit and streets made of actual gold) are just symbols. Butttttt, I did see heaven on 5, it looks pretty close to gold. Yellow and very bright

[tuku747]

Hell is a state of mind, and yes it can feel like forever, (because everything is forever) just smoke any psychedelic in a bad headspace and you'll find it.

If you think about it (and I have on 10 grams of mushrooms) everything is terrifying through this lens, because every experience is Infinite and Eternal, which technically includes all the horrible shit you could possibly imagine. 

Given enough time, you will experience everything, not just once, but Infinitely and Eternally, again and again.

Of course, what this perspective excludes is the relatively mundane and even blissful experiences which are equally Infinite and Eternal, which are interspersed with the Infinite and Eternal suffering.

The miracle of the mind is that you can learn, you can learn who you are, who you aren't, and that you are God dreaming, and hone your lucid dreaming skills to dream the dream you prefer for as long as you are able to maintain that lucidity until you forget again, at which point you are liable to create hell for yourself again. But you will remember again, eventually.

The key is to fill the world with wisdom and reminders, reminding everyone that they are all God dreaming.

 

Edited 14 hours ago by tuku747

[Malkom]

What they describe is 0.00...1% of how it's actually perceived. I understand that such an experience is extremely difficult to fully describe. For example, I once had a very, very realistic dream, a preconscious one. I was at the top of some building, and it had floors, and each floor represented something (the details were difficult to describe, but it was extremely detailed). Then I descended to the very bottom floor, the place looked a bit like a gymnasium during physical education classes at school, and there were vines everywhere, as if nature itself had grown over it, and the place looked abandoned. There were many people there, but you could physically sense the struggle, a constant struggle, in every nuance. And then I descended completely, and in the middle there was a pool, and the pool was filled with a black liquid like tar, only it wasn't like tar; that moment was difficult to describe. And I feel an incredibly terrifying force and intelligence within it, a very, very evil intelligence, very, very intelligent, and very, very large, but I don't see it, I just know it 100%. And I begin to descend into this pool. And immediately I get the feeling that this is the Absolute End, but not just the end of death, but the TRUTH IN GENERAL. There is no return and there will be none. This is still the least I've described; I simply can't describe more, but believe me, everything was much more "interesting." Then I returned to my normal state.
Now I'm wondering, what if I did descend there after all. Moreover, all this suggests that Imagination is Power. Not just about fantasies, but specifically as Embodiment. How Powerful and Intelligent it is. It was scary and very cool.
And yes, Hell is most likely INSIDE YOU.

Edited 11 hours ago by Malkom

[Malkom]

4 hours ago, Aaron p said:

I'm very sure at this point that the physical pictures of hell and heaven (a firey pit and streets made of actual gold) are just symbols. Butttttt, I did see heaven on 5, it looks pretty close to gold. Yellow and very bright

Was there only gold? It's incredibly beautiful. But I only caught a glimpse, I couldn't see it all, otherwise my heart and mind simply wouldn't have been able to take it. I saw endless colors and a lot of them, they were as if transparent, there was volume, bright, very bright and saturated, but not blinding (and gold and yellow, this is an unearthly color, I have never seen it like this, I did not think that yellow could be so fantastically stunningly beautiful, now even in ordinary yellow I see this reminder, the memory of this has of course already faded, but the fact that it was cool. And white as goodness itself, humor itself, this is purely my interpretation of how my mind itself picked up the first words that came to mind, the main thing is to see it yourself, itself ... something encompassing, everything was transcendental, and at the same time nothing earthly was forgotten, but as if shown in an improved form, in its true form. Not only yellow, there were everything and much more. It is generally indescribable, you need to have eloquence level 100,000,000 ahaha), and they all shimmered, merged, built patterns, made meanings, and the colors themselves, This is simply an absolute bomb; there are no flowers like this on earth. I would conditionally call it "Higher Reality," and yes, God is capable of it.

[MellowEd]

13 hours ago, MellowEd said:

 

Multiple people describing the same experience in hell. Are you going to deny the proof ?

[Phoenix Garfield]

I don't deny the existence of youtube.

[Carl-Richard]

Hell experiences are reasonably a thing. But is Jesus the only Lord and Savior? 🤔