Ralston saying he took massive doses of LSD and it didn't raise C

[Hojo]

Quote of Ralston in the video 'I did alot of conciousness raising drugs, did it raise my conciousness? No' ????

Why dont you ask Ralston where does an insight originate? A chemical reaction?

Never trust an old white man.

Isnt it a proven fact that psychedelics can stop addictions? He says in the video you are in the same spot afterwards. No you arent.

I do see a problem with psychedelics where you cant go into the states by your own will but you cant anyway without them, so whats the reason to not take them?

Edited yesterday at 02:31 AM by Hojo

[Vibes]

3 minutes ago, Hojo said:

Never trust an old white man.

Wtf that has to do with anything 

[Hojo]

@VibesNever met an old white man who wasnt full of themselves. Ego gets peppered into everything. 0 truth.

This video is dont do psychedelics because I partied with them and didnt raise my consciousness with 'consciousness raising drugs' in his own words.

This isnt a teaching or wise this is an opinion. A useless opinion. If he was enlightened he wouldnt have one lol.

Dont use alcohol to get depressed cause I drank and didnt get depressed.

 

Edited yesterday at 02:38 AM by Hojo

[Terell Kirby]

9 minutes ago, Hojo said:

Never trust an old white man.

Lmaoo

4 minutes ago, Hojo said:

@VibesNever met an old white man who wasnt full of themselves. Ego gets peppered into everything. 0 truth.

Never met any human who wasn’t full of themselves either. Seems it’s in their nature

Edited yesterday at 02:36 AM by Terell Kirby

[Natasha Tori Maru]

Ralston's techniques were big for my development.

Self-enquiry and meditation were key in conjunction with the above. In fact, there seems to be some confusion around states obtained in meditation. It is like sleeping. You don't 'try' to sleep. You just turn off the senses and it just 'happens' with not a lot of memory around how. And I know - I have spent a lot of time in hypnogogic and lucid states. Flirting with the boundaries of wakefulness and sleep. Deliberate too, to explore facets of consciousness. The states reached in meditated suddenly happen in the same way sleep just happens to us. You just do the thing and it happens. And solid meditation practice over time is almost like - using a microscope or a telescope on reality - only you are looking to the inward landscape. We see so much more of our reality through these instruments - things we were NEVER conscious of before. The same thing happens with meditation practice when you slip into these states. And the longer you do this, exploring inwardly in this state, the more you raise your consciousness. You see more. Understand more. That place is where you unlock siddhis. Although if anyone has experience with these things, you know it is not to be spoken about. That alone will set you back months or YEARS of practice. I don't know why, but when I have been open about things like that in the past, I had huge setbacks. I keep it to myself now.

I never used psychedelics for consciousness work. But I recognize now what these drugs were doing (I have had 7 years+ of use) after having established a meditation practice and regularly exploring the inner landscape. The drugs did not produce awakening for me. Or raised my baseline consciousness. But I recognize they can be used that way if paired with self-enquiry and philosophy. The states I experienced on psychedelics share a lot of overlap between states I slip into with meditation. The difference could be that I was not practicing self-enquiry etc when using. I am basing this observation simply on my perception of both states of meditation and psychedelics. So, it might be useful to ask - what is going on in meditation states? I am 'within the dream' but going into a state that is increasing my awareness, consciousness and perception capabilities. The same way taking the psychedelic is doing something 'within the dream' to experience a different state. And within my own experience something really remarkable is happening in these meditation states with relation to the dream.

I do not know why I can reach such states with so much ease using meditation and self-enquiry. I guess it could be genetics, but it could also be how meta one is about their thinking and how sensitive body-perceiving faculties are. I have always been incredibly aware of HOW I was thinking. Training myself to observe the sequence of thoughts and how I was deriving conclusions. And I used my feeling and emotional states to understand my thinking process. So, a combination of mind/body analysis. Is there a genetic component to the ability to intercept or be so meta? Or did I simply train myself to enhance my own sensation/thinking faculties? 

To reach these really deep states of meditation, I had to learn to better understand the thinking mind - AND feeling/perceptions from the body. Extensive, laborious, time-consuming work. Emotions, feelings, thoughts, perceptions - it seems to me this work is what raises baseline consciousness. Training ones-self to 'sense' in waking states - what the meditation 'microscope' is showing us - just without needing the microscope. And I think psychedelics can put you into a 'state' but without a lot of the work behind it. So, we might say - psychedelics are a short cut 'unearned wisdom'. Maybe needed if you cannot intercept as well. But if you pair psychedelics with self-enquiry, it seems to me this process could be reverse engineered. Psychedelics can make you more aware of body, mind, sensations and how these parts of us influence our experience. Just after the fact. Meditation trained me to do that BEFORE I was able to reach deep states of inner spiritual experience. Working from the ground up, as opposed to psychedelics, which would be from the top down, to the ground.

So maybe psychedelics are raising baseline consciousness from the opposite direction. Like running around a track from start to finish - meditation/self-enquiry is clockwise, psychedelics/self-enquiry anti-clockwise. Both are different paths, see perceive different stuff, but arrive at a similar destination.

Anyway just my 2c

[Hojo]

Props to Leo for doing 500 trips and not doing absolutely insane. Ive done 3 big trips and had to stop cause I could feel myself slipping and still feel it.

Edited yesterday at 02:40 AM by Hojo

[Natasha Tori Maru]

7 minutes ago, Terell Kirby said:

Lmaoo

Never met any human who wasn’t full of themselves either. Seems it’s in their nature

*uses own narrow set of experience data to extrapolate a conclusion without seeing the evident cognitive bias*

[Vibes]

@Hojo I agree. It does raise consciousness and it's very weird that Peter doesn't see it... He was supposed to be the no blind spots wise old man.

[Terell Kirby]

5 minutes ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

*uses own narrow set of experience data to extrapolate a conclusion without seeing the evident cognitive bias*

Woah woah .. easy there now lol. I’m not an exception-humans have egos, it’s a natural thing and totally ok 

[Beans]

Who the F is Ralston?

[Hojo]

@VibesIt raises it so high. People who have smoked DMT say they hear their consciousness raising. Thats what the ringing is your consciousness is getting higher.

Edited yesterday at 02:55 AM by Hojo

[Natasha Tori Maru]

Just now, Terell Kirby said:

Woah woah .. easy there now lol. I’m not an exception-humans have egos, it’s a natural thing and totally ok 

Saaaame - my slippery mind 🫠💀

[Vibes]

Just now, Terell Kirby said:

Woah woah .. easy there now lol. I’m not an exception-humans have egos, it’s a natural thing and totally ok 

We're getting into the therapist gaslighting territory here haha

[Terell Kirby]

2 minutes ago, Beans said:

Who the F is Ralston?

Ralston is the man, despite his closed mind on psychedelics, his teachings are kick ass.

also- idk why we are tripping out on Leo, he’s given Ralston his flowers plenty of times over

Edited yesterday at 02:54 AM by Terell Kirby

[Natasha Tori Maru]

I swear Ralston is like Solipsism for this forum.

These threads keep coming up and exploding 

[Beans]

38 minutes ago, Terell Kirby said:

psychedelics

Yes, I like fish sticks. And Cake!

Edited yesterday at 03:32 AM by Beans

[zurew]

45 minutes ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

*uses own narrow set of experience data to extrapolate a conclusion without seeing the evident cognitive bias*

Leo making definitive claims about the efficiency of spiritual techniques based on the sample size of 1.

[Natasha Tori Maru]

@zurew Ha ha!

Those shots - them be fired

[theoneandnone]

1 hour ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

I swear Ralston is like Solipsism for this forum.

These threads keep coming up and exploding 

Be interesting to run a whole website scan to see what the biggest topics are here. 

[zurew]

Someone should troll Ralston by swapping his tea with ayahuasca