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@Leo Guraso is your alien consciousness discovery linked to aliens we are seeing in the news or what? It is time to confess.

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3 minutes ago, AION said:

@Leo Guraso is your alien consciousness discovery linked to aliens we are seeing in the news or what? It is time to confess.

Not linked.

I have no direct experience of aliens from the news.

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22 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Many basic facts in your worldview are unverified by you. In fact, 99% of them.

Have you verified that Napoleon invaded Russia?

You haven't verified shit. Yet you act like you have.

Should you believe me about UFOs? Certainly not. Which is why I told you to educate yourself, not to believe me.

I never tell you to believe me.

People on this forum are so obviously not even informed of basic facts about UFO reports, like the fact that UFOs are reported in every country in the world. If you read the books you would know that.

I have shared many, many excellent UFO sources with you guys over the years. The best sources. Yet people are lazy and don't even study them. Then they act outraged over why I'm so confident on this matter, as if I just woke up one day and decided to believe in aliens. As in all of my work, I follow the facts wherever they take me and I do not care how crazy the conclusion sounds.

Sorry if we upset you Leo, my comment wasn't meant to be dismissive of your understanding of UFO's. You mentioned the Napoleon invasion of Russia, for that we have in Russia many monuments, statues and artifacts in museums that clearly prove that Napoleon and his Grande Armée invaded Russia. But regarding UFO's especially here in Europe we have almost never heard anything. We don't have an area 51 like you guys have in the US. I apologise if I came up as dismissive but you guys in the US you deal with UFO's on a regular basis yet here in Europe I've been alive for a quarter of a century and I haven't heard anything about UFO's here 

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Its been challenging to find older videos on utube these days, most of the better ones have been deleted. Here's one from 18 years ago.

 

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28 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Many basic facts in your worldview are unverified by you. In fact, 99% of them.

Have you verified that Napoleon invaded Russia?

You haven't verified shit. Yet you act like you have.

Yes, I understood that point when you made it years ago. However, there's a huge difference in trusting a verified historical consensus vs believing anecdotal conspiracy and emotionally compelling narratives. Many would do well to understand the nuance. 

30 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Should you believe me about UFOs? Certainly not. Which is why I told you to educate yourself, not to believe me.

"Don't believe me - believe the books I tell you to read" 😂

I don't have a bone to pick with you about your "aliens are here" belief because I know you've came to the conclusion on your own and no amount of words anyone says can change it. I have lots of respect for your epistemic rigor and know it's solid, but we all make mistakes, including you. 

Obviously, it's a matter of connecting dots, which I haven't done. But the few dots I've seen you drop would not pass muster for dots in the matrix of my aliens-are-here belief. 

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36 minutes ago, Joshe said:

But the few dots I've seen you drop would not pass muster

That's why I am here and you are there.

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34 minutes ago, Daniel Balan said:

You mentioned the Napoleon invasion of Russia, for that we have in Russia many monuments, statues and artifacts in museums that clearly prove that Napoleon and his Grande Armée invaded Russia.

Have you been to Russia to see them?

Replace Napolean with a thousand other facts you believe but will never verify.


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1 hour ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

'What is really at stake for me?'

Because you certainly have a bee in your bonnet regarding it - your posts on this topic are very emotionally loaded compared to others xD

Nothing is at stake. I sometimes just like to swat down bullshit for fun, especially when there's a puzzle that I have to work through to do it. Pathological? Probably.

I'm always emotional - some days I just mask it better. I mean no harm or disrespect, even if it seems like it. 

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Just now, Joshe said:

Nothing is at stake.

 

1 minute ago, Joshe said:

 I sometimes just like

Well there's a something there!! :P 

I don't suppose you have done any additional research into UFOs either, since I raised the US Nimitz congressional stuff in the UFO mega-thread etc? I know its not crop circle related... but it COULD be !


Deal with the issue now, on your terms, in your control. Or the issue will deal with you, in ways you won't appreciate, and cannot control.

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19 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Have you been to Russia to see them?

Replace Napolean with a thousand other facts you believe but will never verify.

You sound like my anti-vaxx, anti-semite, pro- Russian, fascist Nazi neighbour that almost hit me with a baseball bat when I told him that Russians are killing a lot of innocent people in the Ukraine war. He shouted at me: "Have you been to Ukraine and seen that there is a war? All this is western propaganda, Russians are good people, there is no war there."

This left me puzzled. From now on, whenever I want to make a statement about anything I must go take soil samples, photos, maybe travel back in time, to be able to form an accurate opinion on something? 

I follow you solely for epistemology, but what kind of epistemology are you teaching me if you have the same rhetoric as my neighbour who has a portrait of Hitler in his living room? 

I expected more!

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3 minutes ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

Well there's a something there!! :P 

Haha, yes, I know. 

3 minutes ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

I don't suppose you have done any additional research into UFOs either, since I raised the US Nimitz congressional stuff in the UFO mega-thread etc? I know its not crop circle related... but it COULD be !

No, but maybe that's my next target since you instigated me! lol 

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@Leo Gura it's not falling on deaf ears mate your blog posts inspired myself and my friends to start thinking critically about all of this. Massive respect to you for highlighting this stuff cause it really is life changing, I know becoming cognizant of the facts doesn't mean the alien boyos are gonna come down and collect me but the comprehension of the UFO reality is so important for me and many others, thanks for illuminating this facet of reality.


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35 minutes ago, Daniel Balan said:

You sound like my anti-vaxx, anti-semite, pro- Russian, fascist Nazi neighbour that almost hit me with a baseball bat when I told him that Russians are killing a lot of innocent people in the Ukraine war. He shouted at me: "Have you been to Ukraine and seen that there is a war? All this is western propaganda, Russians are good people, there is no war there."

This left me puzzled. From now on, whenever I want to make a statement about anything I must go take soil samples, photos, maybe travel back in time, to be able to form an accurate opinion on something? 

I follow you solely for epistemology, but what kind of epistemology are you teaching me if you have the same rhetoric as my neighbour who has a portrait of Hitler in his living room? 

I expected more!

I am teaching you serious epistemology.

The resemblance to your Nazi neighbor is superficial.

The point is that your mind holds gross double-standards and biases in is applications of proof, evidence, and reasons. You are unconscious of this double-standard so you take something like the existence of Napoleon as a fact but not UFOs, even though in fact the evidence for both are of the same kind.

99% of what you know is unverified hearsay. Yet you don't act like it and you criticize others for lack of verification in their worldview. That's the self-bias you're overlooking.

This is the topic of skepticism. Skepticism is badly misused by the ego-mind. I am always pointing out the double-standards and biases in the mind's application of skepticism. If you are going to be skeptical about UFOs then I get to use that same skepticism against everything you believe. When we do that you will see that your worldview cannot pass the test.

This UFO topic is precisely one of bad epistemology. But bad epistemology on the part of the normies, the UFO deniers. They deny UFOs on the basis of being careful, rigorous, and scientific, but in fact they are being sloppy, lazy, closedminded, and unscientific. Again, because people do not understand the epistemology of science properly. There is nothing unscientific about aliens visiting Earth.

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23 minutes ago, Cubbage said:

 the comprehension of the UFO reality is so important for me and many others

Especially for experiencers!

We get shit carded at every opportunity. I do not bother even bringing the topic up or going in depth anymore due to how irrational people become trying to tell me what I experienced. I just shut the fuck up about it now. People come at you with pitchforks and everything they have because something we experienced challenges their entire worldview. What happened to me doesn't make me special. I didn't make it up. It was just some weird shit I cannot explain.

Religious folks are probably the worst in this arena.


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Just bought the book list and I'm already seeing lots of UFO books I've never heard of cheers bruv 🍻 looking forward to giving these a thorough dissection. I'm curious what your thoughts are on Jacque Vallee's work if you have read any of it such as passport to magonia? @Leo Gura


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My mother insists she saw a UFO and the way she described it lined up with so many of the countless credible videos I've seen and descriptions I've read of from trusted sources. She had absolutely no prior knowledge of UFO's before her experience.


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23 minutes ago, Cubbage said:

I'm curious what your thoughts are on Jacque Vallee's work if you have read any of it such as passport to magonia?

I know of him but I don't know his work enough to comment.


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6 hours ago, Ramasta9 said:

Its been challenging to find older videos on utube these days, most of the better ones have been deleted. Here's one from 18 years ago.

 

@Joshe  Aha, here's the evidence you were looking for. Case closed. Now get some rest Mr Epistemology. 

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