My problems with the phrase “you are god”

[AION]

No you are not. 

Go walk on water and show me that you can. 

You still have to eat, sleep and poop as a man. As a human you can barely wipe your ass and you are trying to go for the Ivy League.

I’m not trying to say it as an insult. It is just what it is. No need to get emotional about it. 

Yes the underlying consciousness is IAM presence but as a human being you are locked in a body being and in terms of consciousness. You might go out of it for a second after zonking your brain with psychedelics. But that is like a drunk state. You shouldn’t do it too much.

I’m saying this because it is very unhealthy to do it. Leo’s channel and health started going downward after he started saying that sentence. Hubris comes before the fall. And god doesn’t forgive the greatest sin which is hubris. It is the greatest sin for a reason and if you haven’t studied it you will find out.

You are just a tiny piece of it all but the all is made of tiny pieces. Until you merged with the whole permanently you ain’t it. And that is when you die. Then you will become it. 

Edited 10 hours ago by AION

[theoneandnone]

I am god I have healed alignments on my human avatar body. 

[vibv]

I am that part of God that is Human.

[Leo Gura]

It means you don't understand.

[Princess Arabia]

24 minutes ago, AION said:

You are just a tiny piece of it all but the all is made of tiny pieces. Until you merged with the whole permanently you ain’t it. And that is when you die. Then you will become it. 

This is just all false. There are no pieces. It's not like its broken up into pieces and all pieces are the whole and when you die you become the whole. That's a misunderstanding. There is just the whole. There is no merging of and becoming it.

29 minutes ago, AION said:

you are locked in a body

That's what it feels like but this is not the case. There's no one locked in a body. Matter of fact, I'll just leave this be. Plenty of misunderstandings in those statements whether you are God or not. I'm not here to debate the 'you are God' issue, so I'm not trying to say you are or are not God, but you certainly aren't what you think or claim to be.

[Hojo]

open your eyes now close your eyes. What are you more out or in . Now look at yourself. What do you look like? Nothing, thats God. Now open eyes and see that the nothing is still there with your eyes open you can see it cause you are still there with your eyes open.

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[AION]

Taking consciousness-steroids(psychedelics) is only a temporary solution. It is like a gym rat who relies on steroids too much. It gets ugly very fast. 

I did psychedelics and I reached that state Leo talks about but it is about how you INTERPRET that insight and state of being. 

If you say it then you can easily prove it. If you can’t. You ain’t it. 

The closest a human can become to god is to embody the cardinal and godly virtues like David. And even then you become close to it in the gym that is called life, you can’t become it in a permanent state. 

Again, if you are, prove it.

Defying god and saying you are it is a very immature state. This is the state of children and they grow out of it. And some don’t grow out of it with nasty consequences as a result. 
 

Just read this topic with fresh eyes and see the immaturity and hubris. Who the fuck does the guy think he is?

 

Edited 9 hours ago by AION

[AION]

21 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

This is just all false. There are no pieces. It's not like its broken up into pieces and all pieces are the whole and when you die you become the whole. That's a misunderstanding. There is just the whole. There is no merging of and becoming it.

That's what it feels like but this is not the case. There's no one locked in a body. Matter of fact, I'll just leave this be. Plenty of misunderstandings in those statements whether you are God or not. I'm not here to debate the 'you are God' issue, so I'm not trying to say you are or are not God, but you certainly aren't what you think or claim to be.

There are pieces when your mind says there are pieces. The mind is all powerful. Try walking through that wall in front of you. 

[Natasha Tori Maru]

I feel like some personal feelings of being invalid might be involved in this topic - but I hope you are okay.

I say this because once again, a lot of upset language.

[AION]

1 hour ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

I feel like some personal feelings of being invalid might be involved in this topic - but I hope you are okay.

I say this because once again, a lot of upset language.

Thanks, I guess. 

[OBEler]

3 hours ago, AION said:

No you are not. 

Go walk on water and show me that you can. 

You still have to eat, sleep and poop as a man. As a human you can barely wipe your ass and you are trying to go for the Ivy League.

I’m not trying to say it as an insult. It is just what it is. No need to get emotional about it. 

Yes the underlying consciousness is IAM presence but as a human being you are locked in a body being and in terms of consciousness. You might go out of it for a second after zonking your brain with psychedelics. But that is like a drunk state. You shouldn’t do it too much.

I’m saying this because it is very unhealthy to do it. Leo’s channel and health started going downward after he started saying that sentence. Hubris comes before the fall. And god doesn’t forgive the greatest sin which is hubris. It is the greatest sin for a reason and if you haven’t studied it you will find out.

You are just a tiny piece of it all but the all is made of tiny pieces. Until you merged with the whole permanently you ain’t it. And that is when you die. Then you will become it. 

You have some typical biases:

• God means you can be all powerful. That means you also have the power to limit yourself. For example, not walking on water.
• What's very unhealthy can still be true. Seeing things as unhealthy is a human survival view. You will not get to truth that way.
• "You are just a tiny piece of it all but the all is made of tiny pieces. Until you merged with the whole permanently you ain’t it." You don't speak from experience here, you just try to understand.  I recommend really get these experiences and try to understand again.
• Admit, you hate the idea that you are god and just try to prevent that through your biases. You are not looking for truth, just what sounds comfortable/healthy for you.

[AION]

12 minutes ago, OBEler said:

You have some typical biases:

• God means you can be all powerful. That means you also have the power to limit yourself. For example, not walking on water.
• What's very unhealthy can still be true. Seeing things as unhealthy is a human survival view. You will not get to truth that way.
• "You are just a tiny piece of it all but the all is made of tiny pieces. Until you merged with the whole permanently you ain’t it." You don't speak from experience here, you just try to understand.  I recommend really get these experiences and try to understand again.
• Admit, you hate the idea that you are god and just try to prevent that through your biases. You are not looking for truth, just what sounds comfortable/healthy for you.

If you are limited you are not god, by definition. God limits itself to be not-God. 

That people are not open to discuss this without being emotional and evasive already says enough. This is a core tenet of Leo’s teaching. And he shouldn’t be arrogant about it. 

I had those experiences on psychedelics but I interpret it in a different way than him. And I reserve that right to do that. 

[UnbornTao]

What good does believing in hearsay do? 

You could be a pear, for all you know.

Find out for yourself what you are, your nature. This involves enlightenment work.

Edited 5 hours ago by UnbornTao

[AION]

1 hour ago, UnbornTao said:

What good does believing in hearsay do? 

You could be a pear, for all you know.

Find out for yourself what you are, your nature. This involves enlightenment work.

It is not hearsay. What I’m saying is direct experience. Just look around you through psychedelics and life. 

[Princess Arabia]

2 hours ago, AION said:

That people are not open to discuss this without being emotional and evasive already says enough. This is a core tenet of Leo’s teaching. And he shouldn’t be arrogant about it. 

Is this a joke. You're the only one here getting all emotional about the topic. Leo said one sentence, 'you don't understand'; doesn't seem like arrogance to me.

[UnbornTao]

1 hour ago, AION said:

It is not hearsay. What I’m saying is direct experience. Just look around you through psychedelics and life. 

I meant that you being God is complete hearsay - not only for you, but for most of us, even for those who believe this point doesn't apply to them.

You are you - what's that really about? That's the question to focus on.

Edited 2 hours ago by UnbornTao

[OBEler]

4 hours ago, AION said:

If you are limited you are not god, by definition. God limits itself to be not-God. 

That people are not open to discuss this without being emotional and evasive already says enough. This is a core tenet of Leo’s teaching. And he shouldn’t be arrogant about it. 

I had those experiences on psychedelics but I interpret it in a different way than him. And I reserve that right to do that. 

4 hours ago, AION said:

 

@AION I understand your position, you can frame it like that.  And of course you reserve the right to do that.  But I don't see here that people get emotional and evasive, we are normally discussing as far as I can see. Only if some are very closed minded it can get emotional and frustrating.

 

[ivankiss]

After spiritual grade 8, the word "you" and the word "God" do not go in the same sentence.

[AION]

@OBElerthanks. I prefer my framing. Because in my vocab, God is limitless and not limited as we humans are.

[AION]

2 hours ago, UnbornTao said:

I meant that you being God is complete hearsay - not only for you, but for most of us, even for those who believe this point doesn't apply to them.

You are you - what's that really about? That's the question to focus on.

Some would claim it is not hearsay because they experienced it

Edited 58 minutes ago by AION