Leo Gura

Who Wants Actualized Psychedelic Retreats?

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I am very interested! I've been following you for years and applying what I've learned.  I would love to do this.

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On 18.10.2025 at 8:04 AM, Carl-Richard said:

You know a Christian.

There is this course in university that causes all this trouble, my favorite course of the entire degree. It went by the name "Spirituality, Religion and Existential Questions". Today it goes by a more pompous name ("Psychology of Religion" or something). I was allowed to write an essay about my spiritual experiences and also do a research paper on how psychology students understand the term "religion". Go figure.

@Inliytened1

I think this clip of Bear Grylls (who is a Christian) is a good example of a more "open" kind of Christian who is also still a "normie" (in the sense of not being "mystical"; as far as I know, I could be wrong). He directly questions the term "Christian" and also mentions doubt:

 

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8 hours ago, Carl-Richard said:

@Inliytened1

I think this clip of Bear Grylls (who is a Christian) is a good example of a more "open" kind of Christian who is also still a "normie" (in the sense of not being "mystical"; as far as I know, I could be wrong). He directly questions the term "Christian" and also mentions doubt:

 

I'll check it out.   Refreshing.  But I can tell you for most Christians they are not open minded enough to discover Absolute Truth because they are too stuck in the concepts and beliefs of religion.


 

Wisdom.  Truth.  Love.

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@Leo Gura I’d be guessing this is an attempt at revitalising the likes of the Ancient Greek mystery schools?

where there is a period of epistemological deconstruction and mind fortification followed by an attempted direct experience through the substance holding the intention from the study period?

it would be nice to see those that get the insight at these retreats ( in person helps to clarify things) and to try and clean up the corruption that’s spread into the ‘spiritual’ community, if you can still call it that. 
 

also reading a lot of comments I’m guessing that from the location of the Netherlands you’d be opting for the pure THC? 
I certainly found cannabis to be a good gateway to a lot of absolute level states with better insights. 

 

the other thing I was going to mention was Ollie Martin down the south of the country on the German border who I recall was synthesising 5MeO. He keeps and breeds the frogs but wanted to stop ‘bothering’ them so went into synthesising the chemical instead and might be a source. 

 

i had hoped to create a study group at my place when I had set it up to go through deconstruction with people but I gave up on the idea because I was encountering too many people just going to retreats for ‘trauma’ resolution or personal problems. Any of those who I answered with advanced spirituality started latching onto it and using it to deflect from facing sorting themselves out first so I stopped teaching and went into space holding instead with basic psychology, CBT, Socratic methods. 
 

it be nice to have the resurgence of a proper mystery school again… I’d change the word ‘mystery’ though.

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