Mellowmarsh

Death is Infinity

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Infinity, beginnings, ends, life, death are all parts of the same reality, are just made-up useful concepts, and don't exist in isolation.
 

I read a comment on this forum the other day by Leo Gura.

It said “ Infinity is Death” but I can’t remember whereabouts I’d seen it written, I mean which thread it was on.

Anyways, I thought about it a lot because it resonates deeply as just another concept that cannot know anything about anything because concepts have no awareness of their existence.

 

What are your thoughts about this? 


 

 

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Yes infinity = madness. We are just a short time away from going totally mad. Like a breather.

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Sometimes it's the journey itself that teaches/ A lot about the destination not aware of/No matter how far/
How you go/How long it may last/Venture life, burn your dread

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20 minutes ago, Hojo said:

Yes infinity = madness. We are just a short time away from going totally mad. Like a breather.

Is there anyway to resolve this problem?

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Just now, Mellowmarsh said:

Is there anyway to resolve this problem?

Go mad! See what you discover!

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@MellowmarshYes calm down. Imagine going mad and creating a world to take a breather in and you go mad in that world then come out even more mad.

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Sometimes it's the journey itself that teaches/ A lot about the destination not aware of/No matter how far/
How you go/How long it may last/Venture life, burn your dread

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The computer says….To link infinity and death is often to reframe death not as an end, but as a surrender to the infinite, or the vast, unknown totality of existence. Philosophers and spiritual thinkers suggest that a fear of death stems from a fear of this surrender, but that by living fully in the present, death can become a gentle guidance into the eternal. 
 

I suppose I can live with that 🖕

 

 

 

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I didn't say Infinity is death, I said death is Infinity.

What you think off as death is just Infinity. Death is a conceptual thing. You don't really die, you just become God.

Death is impossible because you are God and God is Absolute. You are imagining death out of fear of Infinity/God.

When you "die" you become more conscious than you are now.


You are God. You are Truth. You are Love. You are Infinity.

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27 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

I didn't say Infinity is death, I said death is Infinity.

What you think off as death is just Infinity. Death is a conceptual thing. You don't really die, you just become God.

Death is impossible because you are God and God is Absolute. You are imagining death out of fear of Infinity/God.

When you "die" you become more conscious than you are now.

Sorry Leo, for getting it the wrong way round. I couldn’t find where I’d read it, otherwise I’d have gone back to check it before I wrote this thread. I would have checked first before starting this thread but couldn’t remember where I’d seen it written.

 

Anyways, thanks so much for correcting my bad. Sincerely. 👍

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@Leo Gura  I still think we need a proper response from you, to the buddhist and non dual notions of "The Absolute" being Nothingness, beyond and prior to consciousness. many many teachers seem to agree on this

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1 hour ago, Mellowmarsh said:

thoughts about this? 

Garbage.


 

 

 

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What solace lies in the arms of fate
The ill embrace of uncertainty
When did I leave this in other hands
To be pulled down at chance

Ripped away by destiny-claws
Am I another of fate's possessions
Dwelling the lie of freedom
Just another straw pulled at random

Reclaimed by deceiving time
A silent judgement I can not overrule

Drawn back into the origin-vortex
Uprooted and ground to dust
Retracted into anti-existence
A magnet repelled by life's polarity

Denied the self-control of fate
We flow suspended in semi-life
Until the ever imminent day
When oblivion claims our breath

Nowhere indefinitely
Not dead, not alive
Existence-patterns ripped of symmetry
As will and fate divide

Have I appeased the gods of fate?
Am I allowed another day?
Must I die to escape?
The scanning eyes of death


 

 

 

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@Leo Gura

This reminds me of something I lightly intuited from a trip... 

It appears that selflessness (from ego dissolution) equals intelligence. 

Selflessness = Intelligence

 

Am I on the right track? 

What could I contemplate to deepen this inquiry? 


What assumptions, beliefs, or illusions am I under right now?

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My 5 Meo dmt experience was close to what I’d describe as death, it was empty, devoid of substance. I was like ? Is this it? It’s dead I don’t see the appeal. Its almost like the “illusion” is what gives things life, like you walk around feeling like you exist, others exist and the world exists, it’s a sense of “there’s life here”. But that all gets stripped under for example such a substance, it breaks down yourself and others follow. So even if someone is besides you , you’re all alone, because you barely feel they are even there. 
 

It’s like being conscious about death. Like you die, you’re in the void but you’re aware of it. 
 

But I am still open to that there might be deeper facets of awakening, I took only small dose may I point out. But the experience correlates to my natural experiences too: less self, more death

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@SugarcoatIts just a state of itself, the void allows for knowledge of consciousness. You are in a state of the exact same thing right now and there no difference between that and the other. There is a facet where you see that that thing is happening now and you dont feel like it. Its the same thing that feels different.

Theres a state where you feel like broly from DBZ tearing space and time with power. That state would have the base of that nothingness still there. The base state allows you to clearly see what God is.

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Sometimes it's the journey itself that teaches/ A lot about the destination not aware of/No matter how far/
How you go/How long it may last/Venture life, burn your dread

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1 hour ago, emil1234 said:

@Leo Gura  I still think we need a proper response from you, to the buddhist and non dual notions of "The Absolute" being Nothingness, beyond and prior to consciousness. many many teachers seem to agree on this

The Absolute is Everything.

What Buddhists and nondualists get wrong is that they reduce the Absolute to formlessness only. They miss that the Absolute applies equally to all form.

Nothingness is not prior to Consciousness, it IS Consciousness.

Consciousness is Absolute. Consciousness takes many forms and states, and also empty unformed states.

The very base/core of God/Consciousness is total formlessness, but this is not to be placed on a pedastal as the only truth. Consciousness cannot be reduced to formlessness alone.

Buddhists and nondualist commit the error of reductionism. Because they do not have the highest God-Realization because they were always following dogma and group-think in their practices.

The reduction of Consciousness to any atomic thing or substance like "Nothing" is a mistake. The reduction of Consciousness to any state like cessation is a mistake.

Those who speak of Consciousness as just Nothing do not understand the full higher dimenisions of Consciousness because that is beyond meditation and self-inquiry. They have no way of reaching it and no dogma to teach them. And they reject anything which isn't part of their dogma.

1 hour ago, ZenSwift said:

@Leo Gura

It appears that selflessness (from ego dissolution) equals intelligence. 

Selflessness = Intelligence

Am I on the right track? 

What could I contemplate to deepen this inquiry? 

Of course.

God = no self = Infinite Intelligence

Yes, you can contemplate it and trip more deeply and realize the truth of that equation ever more deeply until eventually it kills you.

Keep tripping and keep contemplating the precise questions you wish to know.

Edited by Leo Gura

You are God. You are Truth. You are Love. You are Infinity.

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2 minutes ago, Hojo said:

@SugarcoatIt’s just a state of itself, the void allows for knowledge of consciousness. You are in a state of the exact same thing right now and there no difference between that and the other. There is a facet where you see that that thing is happening now and you dont feel like it. It’s the same thing that feels different.

I feel you have to experience it as distinct to be able to feel like, oh it’s like this all the time actually 

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1 hour ago, Leo Gura said:

I totally and absolutely agree with Leo’s proper response on this thread topic.  👍 

Thanks. 🙏 

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Does non existance exist as non existance therefore it doesn't exist? 🤔


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21 minutes ago, mmKay said:

Does non existance exist as non existance therefore it doesn't exist? 🤔

Existence is Consciousness. Consciousness is an Absolute. An Absolute is that which has no other.

You are really asking if there is something other than God. The answer is No.

What humans mistake as non-existence is the dissolving of forms. Forms do dissolve, but they dissolve into the Absolute Existence of Emptiness.

Emptiness exists. Emptiness is not non-existence.

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You are God. You are Truth. You are Love. You are Infinity.

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