İf anyone says spirituality is...

[James123]

 self-improvement. They just want to sell. Don't buy that bs.

İf sellers make people feel good, sellers makes money. However, of anyone hears what real Spirituality is, all of you guys run. Because, even in this forum, everyone try to impose them beliefs. 

Spirituality  is the complete death of the self, therefore your experiences, beliefs, ideas, and everything you "think" you are, including "I am God, infinite". All that bs.

What remain is real You and that's not a belief. İt is the end of you.

That's it.

[Someone here]

Are you open that there is more to spirituality than seeing through the illusion of separation and ego ? Leo was talking about this during the inception of this forum back in 2016. So none of this contradicts Leo's spirituality but the thing you can't stop at that and think you've figured existence out .there is more insights to have ..isn't that obvious to you ?

[UnbornTao]

And yet, as you say, it's you. Not your self but real being.

@Someone here That's a point to bear in mind too. What is a body, emotion, another, principles, and so on. 

[ivankiss]

Wow, look, I finally kind of sort of agree with you. Nice.

[James123]

5 hours ago, Someone here said:

Are you open that there is more to spirituality than seeing through the illusion of separation and ego ? Leo was talking about this during the inception of this forum back in 2016. So none of this contradicts Leo's spirituality but the thing you can't stop at that and think you've figured existence out .there is more insights to have ..isn't that obvious to you ?

 

2 hours ago, UnbornTao said:

And yet, as you say, it's you. Not your self but real being.

@Someone here That's a point to bear in mind too. What is a body, emotion, another, principles, and so on. 

When one realizes that body is it's own and doesn't need you.

Then done.

[Flowerfaeiry]

Spirituality has the word spirit in it making me think inherently spirituality is involving spirits. Wanted to bring that here what do you guys think. 

[James123]

13 minutes ago, Flowerfaeiry said:

Spirituality has the word spirit in it making me think inherently spirituality is involving spirits. Wanted to bring that here what do you guys think. 

In spirit, there is nothing there.

[UnbornTao]

On 9/26/2025 at 4:36 AM, Flowerfaeiry said:

Spirituality has the word spirit in it making me think inherently spirituality is involving spirits. Wanted to bring that here what do you guys think. 

It's interesting - the word apparently means 'to breathe,' 'soul,' or 'courage', pointing to the non-physical nature of life.

I like to think of spirituality as a principle or practice, whose main goal is directed at becoming conscious of every aspect of existence, including life itself. 

Edited Wednesday at 03:51 PM by UnbornTao

[Natasha Tori Maru]

@Flowerfaeiry 

I always saw the 'spirit' portion as pointing to the non-physical nature of the awareness within.

'I am not the body, the thinking mind'

[ChrisZoZo]

Do 100 online satsungs with Vishrant. Then you see how difficult spirituality is to get enlightenment.

[ChrisZoZo]

@James123 why stop there? You can also say any activity is complete bullshit unless it supports gaining consciousness or supports the understanding that you are source. 

Which definitely includes posting stuff on this form. I Eckhart Tolle and Moojiji both have a method for enlightenment which involves you being constantly even present or in the recognition that you source all the time. 

[ivankiss]

7 hours ago, ivankiss said:

Wow, look, I finally kind of sort of agree with you. Nice.

I take it back. You are still clueless, obviously.

[James123]

1 hour ago, ChrisZoZo said:

Do 100 online satsungs with Vishrant. Then you see how difficult spirituality is to get enlightenment.

You can't get enlightenment, when you drops enlightenment happens.

52 minutes ago, ChrisZoZo said:

@James123 why stop there? You can also say any activity is complete bullshit unless it supports gaining consciousness or supports the understanding that you are source. 

Which definitely includes posting stuff on this form. I Eckhart Tolle and Moojiji both have a method for enlightenment which involves you being constantly even present or in the recognition that you source all the time. 

You are always the source, yet sometimes attached with thoughts or feelings, which is your personality.

[Natasha Tori Maru]

🤦

[ChrisZoZo]

4 hours ago, James123 said:

You can't get enlightenment, when you drops enlightenment happens.

I can’t drop that as I’m nothing 😉

Edited September 26 by ChrisZoZo

[James123]

12 minutes ago, ChrisZoZo said:

I can’t drop up as I’m nothing 😉

Pride. So you are still attached.

[PurpleTree]

You’re back.

Already wondered what happened to you.

[ChrisZoZo]

@James123 I don’t have pride I am nothing 😉

[ChrisZoZo]

@James123 look at my bio 😉

Edited September 26 by ChrisZoZo

[James123]

39 minutes ago, ChrisZoZo said:

@James123 I don’t have pride I am nothing 😉

 

36 minutes ago, ChrisZoZo said:

@James123 look at my bio 😉

Your bio, and you are nothing 😂