what even is satanism and is it true?

[ivankiss]

@Someone here Too weak. But good try.

[Salvijus]

20 minutes ago, ivankiss said:

Btw, when chanting the sacred text I posted above all your lame answers, your eyes should roll back, otherwise you're not doing it right.

Thank me later.

If the end result is not love, then you're going in the wrong direction. 

Edited September 24 by Salvijus

[ivankiss]

13 minutes ago, Salvijus said:

If the end result is not love, then you're going in the wrong direction. 

When you start being able to genuinely love and enjoy this, you made a step in the right direction. A baby step, that is.

But also... end result? Wtf.

[Salvijus]

22 minutes ago, ivankiss said:

When you start being able to genuinely love and enjoy this, you made a step in the right direction. A baby step, that is.

You can enjoy many things that are in service to the ego and not the truth. Your enjoyment of something is not necessary a sign you're on the right track. 

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But also... end result? Wtf.

The outcome of your practice, if it's not love, it's not worth anything. (Be it eyeballs upwards or not) 

Edited September 24 by Salvijus

[ivankiss]

11 minutes ago, Salvijus said:

You can enjoy many things that are in service to the ego and not the truth. Your enjoyment of something is not necessary a good sign. 

Oh god... here we go again with the ego fairytales... I forgot I'm among spiritual infants. My bad. 

Let me remind you quickly... Not. Two. Only One. And not even.

11 minutes ago, Salvijus said:

The outcome of your practice, if it's not love, it's not worth anything. (Be it eyeballs upwards or not) 

Love is not an outcome of a practice. It is what is undeniably and obviously already the case. The truth.

And in case you wondered what is the lie... it's not Satan, it's you thinking there is anything else but God.

 

Edited September 24 by ivankiss

[Salvijus]

1 hour ago, ivankiss said:

Only One

And in case you wondered what is the lie... it's not Satan, it's you thinking there is anything else but God.

I don't disagree. Yet some parts of the One Self are under the spell of false identity which makes them exclusive and thus not in alignment with God's true will of love. It may be that it is those parts born of ignorance that are enjoying a thing because it's something that strengthens their false identity. So pointing out the nondual nature of reality does not address the point I was making. 

1 hour ago, ivankiss said:

Love is not an outcome of a practice. It is what is undeniably and obviously already the case. The truth

Love itself is not the outcome. But your attunment and recognition of love is a process and an outcome from a practice. So it depends how you frame it. You're not wrong tho. But it's again irrelevant to the point I was making. 

Edited September 24 by Salvijus

[ivankiss]

@Salvijus You're not wrong either, and I'm just sharing some epic music here that I love and admire very deeply. Also, the lyrics can be very empowering and enlightening (to an imaginary separate self, of course)

It can be a nice and harmless way of "accepting" and "integrating" the "darker" aspects of reality. And trust me, some of the actual shit that's going on in the world is far more disgusting and difficult to digest than this "satanic music". It's downright gutwrenching and sick.

Much love and respect to you.

[Salvijus]

7 minutes ago, ivankiss said:

@Salvijus You're not wrong either, and I'm just sharing some epic music here that I love and admire very deeply. Also, the lyrics can be very empowering and enlightening (to an imaginary separate self, of course)

It can be a nice and harmless way of "accepting" and "integrating" the "darker" aspects of reality. And trust me, some of the actual shit that's going on in the world is far more disgusting and difficult to digest than this "satanic music". It's downright gutwrenching and sick.

Much love and respect to you.

Mmm, such a warm energy. Thank you the quality of your response 🙏🙏🙏

Much love back to you <3 

[Salvijus]

17 minutes ago, ivankiss said:

@Salvijus

It can be a nice and harmless way of "accepting" and "integrating" the "darker" aspects of reality. 

I can relate to that. 

[Zeroguy]

It’s all kindergarten stuff,grow up and take responsability for your life and life of others.Is this Love or God or is ego false or not doesn't matter.It is all fantasy and waste of time.

[trenton]

The way I see it is that satanism is a reaction to the excesses of mainstream religion. It includes a coalition to prevent religious ideologues from having their religion be the only ones who get their religion taught in schools. They are part of the reason why Christians haven't already taken over the educational system because they constantly stop them with legal battles.

They also reject things like purity culture, wallpapering over doubts, and many other things. They interpret Satan as a symbolic figure rather than a literal figure as most of them are atheists. I have an overall positive opinion of satanists compared to mainstream Christianity in America and what it stands for. They are preventing the take over of the church.

[Aaron p]

God is where the power is at

[Hojo]

@Zeroguy Can I have permission to do it on you then?

[Emerald]

Satanism (from what little I researched about it back when I was a teenager, which I looked up because I was frequently called a Satanist) seems to be based in things that serve the self and center the self as the source of power. They don't seem to actually worship Satan as a deity, though perhaps some do.

It also seems like a "live and let live... until someone messes with you. Then, it's an eye for an eye."

And a lot of the Satanic texts read like an edgy 14 year old wrote them like, "If someone bothers you, destroy them!".... and some are just common sense Humanist values like, "Don't harm children."

Ultimately, it just seems like a self-oriented kind of religion that's sometimes Humanist in nature and other times just ridiculous in its edginess.

Here are the Satanic 11 Commandments listed below...

• Do not give opinions or advice unless you are asked.
• Do not tell your troubles to others unless you are sure they want to hear them.
• When in another’s lair, show him respect or else do not go there.
• If a guest in your lair annoys you, treat him cruelly and without mercy.
• Do not make sexual advances unless you are given the mating signal.
• Do not take that which does not belong to you unless it is a burden to the other person and he cries out to be relieved.
• Acknowledge the power of magic if you have employed it successfully to obtain your desires. If you deny the power of magic after having called upon it with success, you will lose all you have obtained.
• Do not complain about anything to which you need not subject yourself.
• Do not harm little children.
• Do not kill non-human animals unless you are attacked or for your food.
• When walking in open territory, bother no one. If someone bothers you, ask him to stop. If he does not stop, destroy him.

[ivankiss]

Yes. It's all because mommy and daddy didn't love me. But also, every time you use the letter "I" in a sentence, you are embodying the Devil, hope you know that, fallen angels.

[ivankiss]

Want more?

Fear me
I am destruction of innocence
I am the violence embedded in flesh
I am the pain in the bones of
The mortal shell
The dark heart of the Earth

I am Hell

Fear at the throats of the
Father of deception
Let the blood of the cowards
Flow as the wines
False claims of retribution
May they choke on their lies

Lay waste the relics
Silence the hymns of deceit

You will know pain
You will see the true face of panic
Devastation now and forever
Reign of darkness

The masses one with the cursed
Godless in time
No longer a helpless slave
To the mark of the divine

Lay waste the age of man
Return to the Earth

 

#tr00 satanism #brutally tr00

 

Edited Thursday at 03:04 AM by ivankiss

[Hojo]

@ivankissedgier than a apeirogon.

 

Edited Thursday at 03:14 AM by Hojo

[ivankiss]

@Hojo That's the spirit!

[Salvijus]

3 hours ago, ivankiss said:

Want more?

Fear me
I am destruction of innocence
I am the violence embedded in flesh
I am the pain in the bones of
The mortal shell
The dark heart of the Earth

I am Hell

Fear at the throats of the
Father of deception
Let the blood of the cowards
Flow as the wines
False claims of retribution
May they choke on their lies

Lay waste the relics
Silence the hymns of deceit

You will know pain
You will see the true face of panic
Devastation now and forever
Reign of darkness

The masses one with the cursed
Godless in time
No longer a helpless slave
To the mark of the divine

Lay waste the age of man
Return to the Earth

 

#tr00 satanism #brutally tr00

 

Sigh... Why would a poetry of stupidity bring someone joy? Acceptance and acknowledgement of darkness is important. But to glorify darkness is to dive deeper into stupidity. Unless you want that, then it's okay. 

Edited Thursday at 05:53 AM by Salvijus

[ivankiss]

@Salvijus Not bad, felt it in my sacral chakra for 2 and a half seconds, keep practicing, you'll get there.