Franz_

what even is satanism and is it true?

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these days,you cant help but notice all these ppl in hollywood,concert use weird symbolics,outfits,sacrifices etc etc. it makes me wonder am i the only one who doesnt know whats going on? i'd appreciate it if some educated fella would enlighten me. thank you

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An old friend of mine briefly introduced me to witchcraft (also known as these "religions/cults") that are often associated with demons, Lucifer, Satan, etc. Funny enough, these religions used to be pagan religions before organized religion took over. You'll notice they had symbolism of actual good, helping, and giving power to their fellow man, and some still do. Organized religion then "renamed" and redefined these pagan beliefs to associate them with Satan and evil. It's a very standard tactic for any system or ego that wants to self-preserve: say your religion is one of love, peace, and beauty, and then demonize any pre-existing religions as Satan-worshipping to persuade and gain new followers. The irony is kind of cute! ^^ Satan represents selfishness, ego, and hypocrisy; any cult ever can be related to it.


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1 hour ago, Xonas Pitfall said:

An old friend of mine briefly introduced me to witchcraft (also known as these "religions/cults") that are often associated with demons, Lucifer, Satan, etc. Funny enough, these religions used to be pagan religions before organized religion took over. You'll notice they had symbolism of actual good, helping, and giving power to their fellow man, and some still do. Organized religion then "renamed" and redefined these pagan beliefs to associate them with Satan and evil. It's a very standard tactic for any system or ego that wants to self-preserve: say your religion is one of love, peace, and beauty, and then demonize any pre-existing religions as Satan-worshipping to persuade and gain new followers. The irony is kind of cute! ^^ Satan represents selfishness, ego, and hypocrisy; any cult ever can be related to it.

Exactly. Slap a nice little label on it and reduce it down so you can dis-identify it from your egoic beliefs. Voilà! 

Perhaps you could argue satanism is worshiping and pedestalising some dark deity - but that would be worshipping a concept or belief.

So, a falsehood!


It is far easier to trick someone, than to convince them they have been tricked.

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It's real 100%.

But it's difficult to know if it's negative or positive. Everyone has a different opinion about it. 

Demons in general are not pro life, that's why there is such a thing as exorcism in every culture. But some catagory of dark entities are sometimes seen as positive, which is weird. 

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“Love is the whole thing. We are only pieces.” ~Rumi

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26 minutes ago, ivankiss said:

Fear not, brothers and sisters.

This too... is you.

Yet misunderstood.

It's the you that needs to be embraced and transformed into light. Not the you to be protected and endorsed. Careful not to give a status of truth to corrupt parts of yourself and thus endorsing it even further. 

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“Love is the whole thing. We are only pieces.” ~Rumi

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2 hours ago, Salvijus said:

in the name of Christ

In the name of Allah..the compassionate, the merciful. 


 "When you get very serious about truth you accept your life situation exactly as it is. So much so that you aren't childishly sitting around wishing it were otherwise.If you were confined to a wheelchair you would just accept it as how reality is. Just as you now just accept that you are not a bird who can fly."

-Leo Gura. 

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Any form of evil individually or collectively is satanism.  Your egoic pride and thinking you are superior to others or better than them because you think you are smarter than them or richer than them is individual satanic behaviour. Porn is an example of collective satanic business. Also corrupt politicians. Cigarette industry. Alcoholic beverages industry. Etc

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 "When you get very serious about truth you accept your life situation exactly as it is. So much so that you aren't childishly sitting around wishing it were otherwise.If you were confined to a wheelchair you would just accept it as how reality is. Just as you now just accept that you are not a bird who can fly."

-Leo Gura. 

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@Franz_ rich people are rich societies have used black magic to gain wealth but the reality is that once they know enough that they realise that actually using black magic is very detrimental to them. Forces them into a negative timeline where they experience nuclear war. Therefore, they don’t really use them much in a negative way anymore. People like Elon Musk and Trump have absolutely no idea about these powers.


Anyone who says they’re enlightened on this form in anyway is not, except me I am. 

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3 hours ago, Someone here said:

In the name of Allah..the compassionate, the merciful. 

That's a befitting name aswell, yes. 

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“Love is the whole thing. We are only pieces.” ~Rumi

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@Salvijus I like you mate. I wish I could have some degree of your weird mix of coolness and lightheartedness and wisdom .🙏.


 "When you get very serious about truth you accept your life situation exactly as it is. So much so that you aren't childishly sitting around wishing it were otherwise.If you were confined to a wheelchair you would just accept it as how reality is. Just as you now just accept that you are not a bird who can fly."

-Leo Gura. 

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@Someone here  Aww 🥹

If I was a woman, I'd be wet right now. 

Just keep in mind that I tend to push people's buttons often, lol. You'd might be surprised how much you actually hate me :Dddd


“Love is the whole thing. We are only pieces.” ~Rumi

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@Salvijus I obviously have not the first clue what you are like in real life (I know your physical appearance, but I mean personality) but I'm judging based on your posts on this forum . You're only lacking letting go of Jesus daddy .😂 


 "When you get very serious about truth you accept your life situation exactly as it is. So much so that you aren't childishly sitting around wishing it were otherwise.If you were confined to a wheelchair you would just accept it as how reality is. Just as you now just accept that you are not a bird who can fly."

-Leo Gura. 

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@ivankiss dude just realize nobody knows you or gives two squats about what you say . People don't even read any posts other than their own. Zero attention span to finish a poem . Chill out and practice existing .


 "When you get very serious about truth you accept your life situation exactly as it is. So much so that you aren't childishly sitting around wishing it were otherwise.If you were confined to a wheelchair you would just accept it as how reality is. Just as you now just accept that you are not a bird who can fly."

-Leo Gura. 

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20 minutes ago, ivankiss said:

Btw, when chanting the sacred text I posted above all your lame answers, your eyes should roll back, otherwise you're not doing it right.

Thank me later.

If the end result is not love, then you're going in the wrong direction. 

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“Love is the whole thing. We are only pieces.” ~Rumi

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22 minutes ago, ivankiss said:

When you start being able to genuinely love and enjoy this, you made a step in the right direction. A baby step, that is.

You can enjoy many things that are in service to the ego and not the truth. Your enjoyment of something is not necessary a sign you're on the right track. 

Quote

But also... end result? Wtf.

The outcome of your practice, if it's not love, it's not worth anything. (Be it eyeballs upwards or not) 

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“Love is the whole thing. We are only pieces.” ~Rumi

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1 hour ago, ivankiss said:

Only One

And in case you wondered what is the lie... it's not Satan, it's you thinking there is anything else but God.

I don't disagree. Yet some parts of the One Self are under the spell of false identity which makes them exclusive and thus not in alignment with God's true will of love. It may be that it is those parts born of ignorance that are enjoying a thing because it's something that strengthens their false identity. So pointing out the nondual nature of reality does not address the point I was making. 

1 hour ago, ivankiss said:

Love is not an outcome of a practice. It is what is undeniably and obviously already the case. The truth

Love itself is not the outcome. But your attunment and recognition of love is a process and an outcome from a practice. So it depends how you frame it. You're not wrong tho. But it's again irrelevant to the point I was making. 

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“Love is the whole thing. We are only pieces.” ~Rumi

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7 minutes ago, ivankiss said:

@Salvijus You're not wrong either, and I'm just sharing some epic music here that I love and admire very deeply. Also, the lyrics can be very empowering and enlightening (to an imaginary separate self, of course)

It can be a nice and harmless way of "accepting" and "integrating" the "darker" aspects of reality. And trust me, some of the actual shit that's going on in the world is far more disgusting and difficult to digest than this "satanic music". It's downright gutwrenching and sick.

Much love and respect to you.

Mmm, such a warm energy. Thank you the quality of your response 🙏🙏🙏

Much love back to you <3 


“Love is the whole thing. We are only pieces.” ~Rumi

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17 minutes ago, ivankiss said:

@Salvijus

It can be a nice and harmless way of "accepting" and "integrating" the "darker" aspects of reality. 

I can relate to that. 


“Love is the whole thing. We are only pieces.” ~Rumi

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It’s all kindergarten stuff,grow up and take responsability for your life and life of others.Is this Love or God or is ego false or not doesn't matter.It is all fantasy and waste of time.

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