Conservative activist, Charlie Kirk, has been shot and killed at University

[Elliott]

4 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

You can call him a lot of things. Narcisist. Self centered.  Power hungry.  Vain. Materialistic.  Wealth centered.  But a fascist- no. He's not that.  Not to be compared with monsters like Hitler.  He is not that.   

Vain is not a political philosophy, politically, what do we call him when we describe his politics? Narcisist is not a replacement for fascist in the context of Jan 6.

Video from 9 years ago, more coming.

 

Edited yesterday at 05:44 PM by Elliott

[Inliytened1]

2 minutes ago, Elliott said:

Vain is not a political philosophy, politically, what do we call him when we describe his politics?

Video from 9 years ago, more coming.

 

Read my edited post. You can't blame him directly if he didn't directly initiate it.

[Inliytened1]

5 minutes ago, Elliott said:

Vain is not a political philosophy, politically, what do we call him when we describe his politics? Narcisist is not a replacement for fascist in the context of Jan 6.

Video from 9 years ago, more coming.

 

Ok that's a far cry from wiping a race out via death. 

This is like saying we should abolish the MMA.

[Elliott]

9 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

There is no evidence he orchestrated that directly. 

 

9 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

Did he play a role in instilling that? Yes. 

This, is fascism. embracing forcible suppression

 

9 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

But he was not directly responsible for the same reason @Joshe brought up. 

The left is no better and as I said look no further than this thread for that evidence. 

I don't say trump caused an insurrection. Giuliani incited the violence.

[Elliott]

4 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

Ok that's a far cry from wiping a race out via death. 

This is like saying we should abolish the MMA.

I don't call Trump a nazi. I think it's irresponsible to.

Edited yesterday at 05:54 PM by Elliott

[Apparition of Jack]

5 minutes ago, Elliott said:

I don't call Trump a nazi.

Why did Trump call for the Proud Boys to “stand back and stand by” when asked to condemn them after the events of Charlottesville?

Those are not words of someone who rejects Nazism.

 

Edited yesterday at 05:59 PM by Apparition of Jack

[PurpleTree]

This discussion is so silly honestly.

 

 

 

 

 

 

…Anyway release the Epstein files dude

[Joshe]

38 minutes ago, Elliott said:

their rhetoric would not reasonably lead to violence were it not for the ones calling for violence

I disagree. I think they're more contributory to violence than explicit, occasional calls for it from someone like Trump. Of course both contribute, but these 3 voices prime the violence. Without the prime, there's often no start. 

[Elliott]

Just now, Joshe said:

I disagree. I think they're more contributory to violence than explicit, occasional calls for it from someone like Trump. Of course both contribute,

 

Just now, Joshe said:

but these 3 voices prime the violence. Without the prime, there's often no start. 

Absolutely

[ChadT]

So many of these right wing "influencers" are really just grifters at this point.  They have figured out that there is a ton of money to be made, pushing peoples buttons.   I think many of them start out conservative and just get more and more extreme because they realize that's what gets them the attention and $ they seek.  I'm not even sure they are self aware enough to see it.   Hell, just look at what happened to Rogan.  The left does it too, to some extent, but there really is no real equivalent on the left.  I've been asking myself, if the right wanted revenge and wanted to kill the left wing version of Charlie Kirk, who would they kill?  The left doesn't have an equivalent.  I could name a half dozen on the right though. 

[Inliytened1]

8 minutes ago, ChadT said:

So many of these right wing "influencers" are really just grifters at this point.  They have figured out that there is a ton of money to be made, pushing peoples buttons.   I think many of them start out conservative and just get more and more extreme because they realize that's what gets them the attention and $ they seek.  I'm not even sure they are self aware enough to see it.   Hell, just look at what happened to Rogan.  The left does it too, to some extent, but there really is no real equivalent on the left.  I've been asking myself, if the right wanted revenge and wanted to kill the left wing version of Charlie Kirk, who would they kill?  The left doesn't have an equivalent.  I could name a half dozen on the right though. 

We don't condone that stuff here. This type of thinking. Take it somewhere else.

Edited yesterday at 06:12 PM by Inliytened1

[ChadT]

3 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

We don't condone that stuff here. This type of thinking. Take it somewhere else.

Condone what?  The fact that I am trying to determine if the left has an equivalent of Charlie Kirk?  

[Joshe]

4 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

We don't condone that stuff here. This type of thinking. Take it somewhere else.

WTF? He has a good point. 

[PurpleTree]

He is an alt right

No he is a fascist

He is a nazi

No he‘s not fully nazi yet he’s still developing 

No he’s a commie

No his cat is a nazi i‘ve seen it do the salute, it’s also a white cat

No it’s an alt right cat

 

[Inliytened1]

1 minute ago, Joshe said:

WTF? He has a good point. 

And what might that be?

[Inliytened1]

3 minutes ago, ChadT said:

Condone what?  The fact that I am trying to determine if the left has an equivalent of Charlie Kirk?  

, if the right wanted revenge and wanted to kill the left wing version of Charlie Kirk, who would they kill? 

[Joshe]

1 minute ago, Inliytened1 said:

And what might that be?

Everything he said is reasonable. His entire post is open minded and reasonably inquisitive. There's nothing wrong with it at all. Can you point out a single error or falsehood? 

[Inliytened1]

1 minute ago, Joshe said:

Everything he said is reasonable. His entire post is open minded and reasonably inquisitive. There's nothing wrong with it at all. Can you point out a single error or falsehood? 

The contemplation of revenge and who to kill on the left ? Is that enough?  There's a Tyler Robinson lurking on every corner.

Edited yesterday at 06:24 PM by Inliytened1

[Elliott]

30 minutes ago, Apparition of Jack said:

Why did Trump call for the Proud Boys to “stand back and stand by” when asked to condemn them after the events of Charlottesville?

Those are not words of someone who rejects Nazism.

 

Trump is a fascist  bigot, not a racist.

Edited yesterday at 06:26 PM by Elliott

[Joshe]

3 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

if the right wanted revenge and wanted to kill the left wing version of Charlie Kirk, who would they kill? 

This is a very good, reasonable question. The answer to such a question would aid in a better understanding of the political landscape. Try answering it for yourself.