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Quitting smoking awakening

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@UnbornTao @Natasha Tori Maru  thank you guys for supporting me . Appreciate it . And btw sorry for ignoring your comments in the thread about suffering.  I did so because I feel like we need to tackle one point at a time ,instead of Bombarding each other's with tons of unrelated questions . Much love 🙏. 


 "When you get very serious about truth you accept your life situation exactly as it is. So much so that you aren't childishly sitting around wishing it were otherwise.If you were confined to a wheelchair you would just accept it as how reality is. Just as you now just accept that you are not a bird who can fly."

-Leo Gura. 

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@Someone here no harm no foul 🫠

I like being challenged, even if sometimes it makes me feral and aggressive with making a point. So I too, am sorry. In the end it is me angry at myself. I see some 'perceived' ignorance and I want to help, but when I am faced with resistance I am infuriated. 100% because I am disowning the part of myself that is ignorant, and I refuse to see it. I refuse to accept the other user has considered something I have not. So what I see in reality is just precisely what is occuring inside me. I am just unconscious too it. So reverse engineering my feeling and emotional reaction back to the belief is fucken brutally awesome. Lots of arrogance there as we can see...

I do have to get a handle on the feral slappings I tend to let slide in... 🤪 

I don't insult but I am aware I can be very derisive and dismissive. I do it at work in construction, and it gets results. Learned bad behaviour.

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Deal with the issue now, on your terms, in your control. Or the issue will deal with you, in ways you won't appreciate, and cannot control.

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6 hours ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

I just choose to obstain because I value clarity over anything else.

You just can't keep yourself from stealing more of my thoughts? 🙈 I'm not even joking.


Intrinsic joy = being x meaning ²

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5 hours ago, Someone here said:

@UnbornTao @Natasha Tori Maru  thank you guys for supporting me . Appreciate it . And btw sorry for ignoring your comments in the thread about suffering.  I did so because I feel like we need to tackle one point at a time ,instead of Bombarding each other's with tons of unrelated questions . Much love 🙏. 

No worries.

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On 19.9.2025 at 6:24 PM, Someone here said:

Good job. If it wasn't rare and expensive in India (I had to find a dealer " I would've be addicted to weed as well .

India has literally the #1 cheapest weed in the entire world lol


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2 hours ago, Carl-Richard said:

You just can't keep yourself from stealing more of my thoughts? 🙈 I'm not even joking.

I'm over here harvesting that shit like a golden datamine :D 


Deal with the issue now, on your terms, in your control. Or the issue will deal with you, in ways you won't appreciate, and cannot control.

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I must say as well the first few days were full on hell landscape. I use cigarettes to cope with stress . Like when I go to buy bread and I have to cut through crowded hungry mofos to buy the freshly baked bread I need to chew on a 🚬 and blow some steam outta my chest to deal with the absolute nonsense of society. 

 


 "When you get very serious about truth you accept your life situation exactly as it is. So much so that you aren't childishly sitting around wishing it were otherwise.If you were confined to a wheelchair you would just accept it as how reality is. Just as you now just accept that you are not a bird who can fly."

-Leo Gura. 

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I'm going to give you a very comprehensive overview of my experience with nicotine and how to stop. I don't get the sense that you are fully committed to stopping yet, but I hope this will change that. Fucking listen up dude, I promise it's worth it.

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I’ve been cutting down on nicotine lately. Over the past few weeks I’ve dropped to two 3mg pouches a day (this is a very small dose of nicotine) and the difference in my mental state is insane. Motivation is way up, everyday things feel enjoyable again, and for the first time in a year (since I started heavy daily use) I actually feel content.

What’s strange is that I’m in a good place in life, but I still felt empty and couldn’t figure out why. I think it was the nicotine. High doses hijack your dopamine system so nothing feels rewarding except the next hit. It feels a lot like depression: even basic things like washing dishes, going to the gym, or working feel flat and joyless.

When I first started vaping regularly I could feel my excitement for life slipping away, but the nicotine hit was strong so I didn’t care. Eventually the hit fades too and you’re just left with no excitement for life at all. It’s a terrible deal.

I can’t stress enough how much I recommend cutting back. Not just for health, but for your brain. Feeling content in life is almost impossible when your brain is constantly flooded with nicotine.

Here's exactly what I did to quit, and I have not found it that hard because it's been very gradual. You can absolutely do this, and I promise it's worth it.

  • Buy a re-fillable vape with 10-15mg (1% - 15%) e-liquid
  • Every two weeks drop to the next lowest e-liquid strength e.g. 15mg (1.5%) > 10mg (1%) > 6mg (0.6%) > 3mg (0.3%)
  • Start taking 3mg nicotine pouches on weekdays (I was taking around 5 per day when I switched to this) instead of vaping, but allow yourself to vape on weekends
  • Take fewer and fewer pouches per weekday (I found it much easier to switch to lower pouch strength than lowering vape content)
  • Once you're taking 1-2 pouches per day, you can stop yourself vaping at weekends and only take pouches
  • At this point the health impacts are negligible. Maybe you can stay at this level, or you can make the final push to quit. I haven't reached this point yet, but I already feel 1000x better than when I was smoking and vaping daily.
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I had a huge spiritual awakening when I quit smoking too!  I read the book "The Easy Way to Stop Smoking" by Alan Carr (Highly recommend) And it was like it unlocked the nature of addiction in my mind and all of the sudden I could see it everywhere and from there I had epiphany after epiphany and everything in life clicked together and made sense.  I was elated and tingly in my forehead for about 2 months and then I went back to being normal but wiser.      

The key take away though, is that addiction is self deception.  My mind created a narrative that I enjoyed smoking so that I would feed it niccotine, but the truth was that niccotine made me anxious all of the time, and smoking would make me feel normal temporarily until the anxiety to smoke would build up again and I'd smoke again to feel "normal".    Non-smokers feel the "normal" feeling ALL THE TIME.    It's funny because it inverts on you.   At first the cigarettes feel good and relaxing but eventually you become anxious and the cigarettes just bring you a moment of normal.  That's it.  And it is that way for any addiction.  At first it starts out with some sort of positive feeling, but eventually you feel like shit all of the time and you need it to feel normal.   Crazy right?   It is all just lies to your self when you think "the cigarette relaxes me"  No.  It doesnt.  It makes you anxious all of the time in a way that the non smoker never experiences.

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