SwiftQuill

Why I'm Far-Right (and why I will never change)

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I remember when I identified as a progressive liberal roughly 4 years ago. I used to consume a lot of Breadtube content. In my view, my stances weren't even "political". My stances on things were just "be a good person, let others live their life".

I supported:

  • Gay marriage
  • Homosexuals adopting children
  • Legalization of most drugs
  • Immigration
  • Taxing the wealthy
  • Green energies
  • Fixing the wage gap
  • Reparations (when applied surgically)

That being said, I have always been against DEI and Affirmative Action, because even back then, I found these measures racist and sexist, and I found the studies defending them to be biased. I won't get into that because I've been berated and insulted by the bald man many times on this forum. If I say I don't want a society that creates job ads and positions in college that exclude you because of your race or gender, according to the bald man, I'm selfish and a white fragile.

Still, if we are being objective, most of my views are left-wing. I recently took the political compass quiz. I scored at the center of the bottom left quadrant (libertarian-socialist).

Of all the issues I listed above, my only change in the past 4 years is immigration. I've seen the effects of mass immigration. It's not a matter of "racism". It's about integrity of the system (house market, jobs, schools, hospitals).

But really, at the end of the day that doesn't matter.

Because the train I take to go to work, that 50% of the time has delays, and workers go on strike? That's irrelevant for the modern Left. To the modern Left, that's peanuts. Because those poor black people are extremely disadvantaged and the main theme in politics should be black lesbian women ethnic minorities LGBTQ. Why on earth would we spend time discussing issues that affect ALL OF US when we can instead engage in culture wars that only serve to divide and conquer?

How dare I, as a straight white male cisgender patriarch say my life is difficult. Only because I have multiple college degrees, and I make less money in my country, than if I were in the UK as a dishwasher. How dare I complain about the disproportionately low wage I make (1400€ a month, cost of living being 1300€ while living frugally), when there's black people in the USA suffering from racism?

How dare I talk about issues that men face, and say that not all men are evil rapists who want to oppress women, when in reality 1% of men do rape women?

Because we need to be proportionate.

But really, you modern leftists, do you apply that criterion to yourself? When you go to a hospital, with a broken leg, do you think to yourself "Oh wait I'm not going to waste resources from this system, knowing there's children in stage 4 cancer out there". Because if you have more than 2 braincells, you understand tackling one issue does not necessarily invalidate or take away resources from the other one.

But you know what, maybe I am right wing. I am far right, fascist, racist, sexist, because I oppose the immigrant population multiplying at the current rate.

Maybe I am sexist and misogynist, because I oppose the fearmongering of feminism. That glancing in a woman's general direction is predatory and creepy. Maybe I do have an issue with the "top 10 red flags" issues women consume these days on instagram and Tiktok. "Number 1 red flag: he complimented your shoes, that means he wants to rape you".

"But that's a strawman of the Left wing worldview".

You can't have it both ways. You can't ignore the issues of the Woke religion, defend them, minimize them, and insist it's a strawman. These issues I'm describing from experience.

That's why I'm far right. That's why today I fully reject the label "progressive" and "liberal". Because these words mean different things in my head.

In my head, progress is a necessarily good thing, by definition. Gay marriage is progress. Increased wages is progress. Functioning trains is progress. Seeing rainbow LGBTQ+ flags plastered around companies, and seeing Disney writers and producers calling anyone who dislikes their movies "racist", I don't call that progress.

I'm aware of the mental gymnastics that leftists make to defend these things.

"If you were a woman you too would be afraid of men. It's entirely justified to be afraid of men these days."

"You yourself may not be racist but ALMOST EVERYONE who is against immigration is racist."

"Studies show white people in particular are more racist than all other races."

"You are literally by definition privileged. Whether you like it or not. If you are above the poverty line, and are male, and you don't experience racism or bigotry because of your sexuality, you are literally textbook definition privileged."

This is all a distraction. These things are not refutations. People think they have GOTCHA against me but they really don't. What they do have is gaslight.

You see, I have an inclusive worldview. In my view, gender, sex, sexuality, race, yes of course these are important dimensions to a person. But they aren't THE ONLY dimensions.

I came from a low income family, raised by a single mother. That brought me a lot of disadvantages in life. My parents didn't pay my college tuition. And I struggled so much with money it caused me relationship issues (it does require to have SOME money to be social, go out, have drinks). To this day, I have suffered because of my upbringing. I'm not saying I'm oppressed by society. I'm saying I'm NOT privileged.

And if you came with me with a neutral definition of "privileged" I would be fine with it. If you told me "you are privileged because you aren't in prison, or in a third world country, or living under a bridge" or something along those lines, yes I would obviously say I'm privileged.

But I'm not privileged in the context of this society. The so called "patriarchy" has never given me a job. I've had to send out literally 1000's of CV's, only to get a response or two for a job.

"But the issues you are describing fall under the definition of personal issue not collective issue. Because none of your demographic characteristics contain systemic historic oppression, you are defined as privileged."

Such a convenient feminist argument to make.

And people wonder why young men are leaving the Left? I wonder if the things I'm describing, in the things I've experienced here in Portugal, young men in the USA also experience.

Or maybe, as the bald man says, it's because men are selfish and in stage orange selfish ego mindset, and "are unwilling to surrender their privilege".

I don't have a binary view of such things. I don't see the world as oppressed vs privileged. I'm privileged because I'm a man, she's privileged because she's a woman.

I find that preposterous and it demonstrates a complete lack of bad faith in Left wing discourse.

There are degrees of privilege. I'm healthy. I have two arms and two legs. That is a lot of privilege compared to someone with a disability.

But am I privileged even though I'm a fucking virgin at age 27? I'm privileged even if I flirt with a woman at a bar, the white knights there turn on me and kick me out? I'm privileged even though I'm way overqualified for my job, and I make way less than if I lived in any other country?

Could it be that the primary source of oppression is actually capitalism, that it causes poverty for black people, it causes inequality and frustration for everyone, and that all these culture wars are a distraction?

No. Because leftists must virtue signal all the time.

I'm not exaggerating when I say my stances on politics are around 85% left wing. Some of them radically left wing, especially economically. But you know what, I'm still called as "far right" by leftists. Because I dare listen to Joe Rogan, or because I like Jordan Peterson.

It wasn't like this. My country used to be normal. I used to be able to turn on the news, and trust reporters. 

But now? Everyone has Trump Derangement Syndrome. The moment any policy here is discussed, that even VAGUELY aligns with Trump or the Republican party, people freak out.

"WHAT NO we are a progressive political party, and we are Portuguese. We don't do that silly far right thing Americans do."

It's a thought terminating cliché. It's an emotional kneejerk reaction.

No one is allowed to discuss crime, immigration, or even economics. Even strategic economic policies are considered "American Right wing".

I may be left wing overall, but I'm all for pragmatic policies that make the government more efficient.

But no, if a guy here proposes to cut government spending, suddenly he's lumped together with Elon Musk Neo Nazi Alt Right DOGE.

I have not become radicalized by the Right. I have become radicalized by the Left, against itself.

This forum has actually solidified my stance on this topic. I was hoping I could discuss things with open minded people. Instead, I was called "stage orange", "selfish", "child", "white fragile", I've been told I "don't have compassion for ethnic minorities" (for daring to be against DEI).

That's why I am "Far Right".

I shall never use the labels "progressive" or "liberal" ever again. I consider myself heterodox with left leaning perspectives.

But to Leo? To Actualized.org? To Reddit? To Facebook? To my friends and family? I'm Far Right.

We live in a society that claims gender is a social construct. Yet, "men" are evil.

We live in a society that claims race is a social construct. Yey, "it's white people's fault".

This division and hatred isn't progress. It's an abomination. This only serves those who identify as ethnic minorities, or white women, or LGBTQ. And even these people, it doesn't serve them. It gives them an emotional catharsis, but it doesn't actually solve the systemic problems they face.

Because when a woman goes to the hospital, and they can't take her in, because it's full, that's not the Patriarchy. That's a broken system.

When a black man takes the train to go to work, and workers are protesting, and he ends up spending a shit ton of money on a taxi to go to work, that's not the white's fault. It's the system.

And when a homosexual man works as a mechanical engineer and earns 3x less in his own country than in the country right next to him, that's not homophobia. That's capitalism at its best.

So I do suggest, if you have even the slightest of open mindedness, to look inward. 

Or, as I can predict, you will read the first paragraph or two, scoff at what I'm saying, and dismiss me as some anti woke idiot.

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I'm a liberal and I don't support open immigration, we had a labor shortage so we allowed a lot in but there's a limit and a little bit of labor shortage isn't death. We live and learn.

 

I think it's fair to debate DEI as well, my skeptical thought is why mask rascism, don't support racist businesses or universities.

I don't know about European government spending, but American liberals want spending cuts, to the defense department. I personally think the national debt is a dire problem that needs addressed, by taxing the rich and cutting defense spending. Conservatives here only talk about fiscal responsibility but they're the ones that run the debt up.

Your emphasis is on racism and sexism, I think you may spend a lot of time in echo chambers. I'm not around that dialog much, but there's absolutely some loons that go on about it that I block on social media.

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This forum is an echo chamber, yes.

But it's not just echo chambers, it's overall vibe in society. It's evolving, but without progress. I call it fake progressivism.

Women hating men isn't empowering, it's hateful, it's divisive.

LGBTQ flags aren't progress, they are shallow. They are an easy symbol for virtue signaling.

Canceling someone for a minor transgression is seen as normal, even righteous. But it isn't.

But really, the thing that triggers me most is the privilege thing. Any normal person, with an objective analysis of my life, of what I've been through, of what my current life is, wouldn't call me "privileged". At least not under the marxist feminist definition.

I look at society and I see for the most part, 4 major groups:

  • The poor (people starving, or working in sweatshops in China)
  • The oppressed workers (and yes I do consider myself oppressed economically. I'm a software engineer and my wage barely allows me to live. And my skills far outweight my sallary, it's oppression through unfair pay). I consider this group 90% of people in western society
  • The comfortable ones (millionaires, celebrities, people who don't worry about survival that much)
  • The tyrants (the billionaires, oligarchs, high ranking politicians).

And people come to me, saying I'm selfish because my perspective is TOO BROAD. I instead should have this perspective, according to leftists:

  • The universally oppressed (women, blacks, immigrants, including even multimillionaire female celebrities)
  • The universally protected by the patriarchy privileged ones (men, including Mcdonald's workers, including men in prison, including men who are neurodivergent, anything goes except for PHYSICAL disabilities, those go under the oppressed category

And this retarded as fuck binary is what I disagree with. 

And even though I don't go out of my way pushing my own perspective, my own pyramid of maxism unto others, people come to ME and tell me THEIR pyramid is the right one, and come up with bullshit feminist studies to "prove" it.

Society, at this rate, is fucked. And you know who wins? The billionaires, the oligarchs. They should by laughing by now, knowing we people spend so much of our fucking time engaging in culture wars, instead of fixing the real problems in the system.

 

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16 minutes ago, SwiftQuill said:

This forum is an echo chamber, yes.

But it's not just echo chambers, it's overall vibe in society. It's evolving, but without progress. I call it fake progressivism.

Women hating men isn't empowering, it's hateful, it's divisive.

LGBTQ flags aren't progress, they are shallow. They are an easy symbol for virtue signaling.

Canceling someone for a minor transgression is seen as normal, even righteous. But it isn't.

But really, the thing that triggers me most is the privilege thing. Any normal person, with an objective analysis of my life, of what I've been through, of what my current life is, wouldn't call me "privileged". At least not under the marxist feminist definition.

I look at society and I see for the most part, 4 major groups:

  • The poor (people starving, or working in sweatshops in China)
  • The oppressed workers (and yes I do consider myself oppressed economically. I'm a software engineer and my wage barely allows me to live. And my skills far outweight my sallary, it's oppression through unfair pay). I consider this group 90% of people in western society
  • The comfortable ones (millionaires, celebrities, people who don't worry about survival that much)
  • The tyrants (the billionaires, oligarchs, high ranking politicians).

And people come to me, saying I'm selfish because my perspective is TOO BROAD. I instead should have this perspective, according to leftists:

  • The universally oppressed (women, blacks, immigrants, including even multimillionaire female celebrities)
  • The universally protected by the patriarchy privileged ones (men, including Mcdonald's workers, including men in prison, including men who are neurodivergent, anything goes except for PHYSICAL disabilities, those go under the oppressed category

And this retarded as fuck binary is what I disagree with. 

And even though I don't go out of my way pushing my own perspective, my own pyramid of maxism unto others, people come to ME and tell me THEIR pyramid is the right one, and come up with bullshit feminist studies to "prove" it.

Society, at this rate, is fucked. And you know who wins? The billionaires, the oligarchs. They should by laughing by now, knowing we people spend so much of our fucking time engaging in culture wars, instead of fixing the real problems in the system.

I'm a white male, some people say i look like a cop, not hippy looking at all, I go to hippy safe-havens in a woke city, the women love me and go out of their way to be nice to me, actually.

To me, you really seem to spend time in toxic woke bubbles. I don't like the stuff you're talking about either and I spend my time with wokists just not deranged ones.

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@Elliott I'm very easily triggered by the word "privileged" because, overall, I've had a hard life. I actually go out of my way to avoid interacting with wokies online. But it's hard to avoid them, considering most social media is very left-wing. And institutions are left-wing. And news reporters are left-wing. And people in my life are very left-wing.

And I'm still upset at the way the bald man ridiculed me.

And here in Portugal, there's a strong surge of radical feminism happening. So it's not just me spending too much time online. It's interactions I have with female coworkers, and foids in general. It wasn't like this 4 years ago... It started happening around 3 years ago and it's been getting worse.


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There's a butch lesbian hot yoga teacher that's class I go to sometimes, I barely know her yet she always goes out of her way to talk to me and she's actually somewhat shy of a person, I'll be the single person she compliments in class.

I understand there's social movements to "take on the patriarchy", and a lot of misandry, there's toxic stuff going around about men, but it seems to be fairly isolated to me and not as prolific as it seems to have been in your experience. Perhaps you see things and think it's going to get worse? Remember that leftists try a lot of stuff but also change course and learn.

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9 minutes ago, SwiftQuill said:

@Elliott I'm very easily triggered by the word "privileged" because, overall, I've had a hard life. I actually go out of my way to avoid interacting with wokies online. But it's hard to avoid them, considering most social media is very left-wing. And institutions are left-wing. And news reporters are left-wing. And people in my life are very left-wing.

And I'm still upset at the way the bald man ridiculed me.

And here in Portugal, there's a strong surge of radical feminism happening. So it's not just me spending too much time online. It's interactions I have with female coworkers, and foids in general. It wasn't like this 4 years ago... It started happening around 3 years ago and it's been getting worse.

There's always going to be a lot of people that make excuses and put others down. What you're seeing is definitely having it's moment though, I think it's a temporary craze that will dial down. It should be spoken out against like you do too.

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@Elliott

I had a group of coworkers I got along with.

3 years ago, the foids started talking misandry during lunch. Every single day. I'm not kidding. Literally every single day they would only talk about how they hate men and radical feminist ideas. These aren't gen z. These are millenials and even boomer foids.

They started making feminist jokes even during work. Like "Wassup man, how's your patriarchy life going". I understand this is peanuts to most people, but this type of talk irritates me.

I changed jobs 6 months ago (for a better paying one). I had a female coworker who is also a developer. She was in my team. She identified as radical feminist. She refused to engage in meetings with me (zoom meetings, not even meetings in person). She said she only wants to interact with me via text so in case I ever say anything inappropriate to her, she has evidence.

I quit my job that day.

And mind you, I'm not a player. I don't even interact with women. I've given up on dating, even socializing with them.

Women have become so fucking paranoid they think a COWORKER wanting to discuss technical details with them, that's potentially dangerous.

One day I was going to my office, a foid was behind me. I was going to take the elevator. From her body language, she clearly was going to enter the same elevator.

I entered and stretched my arm (so the elevator door wouldn't close, so she could enter). She took a step back and said "thanks but I don't take elevators with men in them, I'll take the next one". 

This is normal shit. Very normal shit that is being taken over by this radical ideology.

People are going fucking insane. And I blame it on American Left Wing Postmodern Maxism. Because women absorb these ideas mostly from social media.

My psychologist says I have my perception distorted because of these experiences.

But is my perception distorted, is it bad luck? Or is it a retarded trend that's taking over society?

That being said, obviously I'm not saying this is universal. I'm stating these things because I experienced them. I'm not here implying all men experience these things in society. But it sure is odd that when I talk with other Portuguese men, they relate similar experiences.


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2 minutes ago, SwiftQuill said:

@Elliott

I had a group of coworkers I got along with.

3 years ago, the foids started talking misandry during lunch. Every single day. I'm not kidding. Literally every single day they would only talk about how they hate men and radical feminist ideas. These aren't gen z. These are millenials and even boomer foids.

They started making feminist jokes even during work. Like "Wassup man, how's your patriarchy life going". I understand this is peanuts to most people, but this type of talk irritates me.

I changed jobs 6 months ago (for a better paying one). I had a female coworker who is also a developer. She was in my team. She identified as radical feminist. She refused to engage in meetings with me (zoom meetings, not even meetings in person). She said she only wants to interact with me via text so in case I ever say anything inappropriate to her, she has evidence.

I quit my job that day.

And mind you, I'm not a player. I don't even interact with women. I've given up on dating, even socializing with them.

Women have become so fucking paranoid they think a COWORKER wanting to discuss technical details with them, that's potentially dangerous.

One day I was going to my office, a foid was behind me. I was going to take the elevator. From her body language, she clearly was going to enter the same elevator.

I entered and stretched my arm (so the elevator door wouldn't close, so she could enter). She took a step back and said "thanks but I don't take elevators with men in them, I'll take the next one". 

This is normal shit. Very normal shit that is being taken over by this radical ideology.

People are going fucking insane. And I blame it on American Left Wing Postmodern Maxism. Because women absorb these ideas mostly from social media.

My psychologist says I have my perception distorted because of these experiences.

But is my perception distorted, is it bad luck? Or is it a retarded trend that's taking over society?

That being said, obviously I'm not saying this is universal. I'm stating these things because I experienced them. I'm not here implying all men experience these things in society. But it sure is odd that when I talk with other Portuguese men, they relate similar experiences.

I think it's your industry

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Have you ever zoomed out to try to get a sense of the scale of the demographic you seem to put a large portion of your life energy into opposing? 

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IMO, it doesn't make sense to be so invested in such a position. Even if they made up 20%, it still wouldn't warrant it. 30%, I could see it, but even then, your response to it is not healthy. Even if the world was what you think it is, it would not be healthy to hate it with such passion. 

We find what we seek. You have bottled up hate and are using woke to justify its expression. 

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I find that people who has strong complaints about feminism and such generally spend to much time on the internet, probably watch YouTube vids). There are issues sure, but on the average day (in real life) you’re more likely to encounter issues with your plumbing.

Not everyone is great in person, but I’ve found that most people are friendly enough. I have a crazy feminist at work, real nut job. That’s ok, none takes her seriously outside in work-related settings. She just comes off as someone with massive mental issues. She is friendly as well for the most part as long you are polite. There is no point trying to change her mind.

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3 hours ago, SwiftQuill said:

Why on earth would we spend time discussing issues that affect ALL OF US when we can instead engage in culture wars that only serve to divide and conquer?

This is the best thing you said and one of the left's biggest blindspots. 

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Actually, on the first page of threads, only you two have posted culture war stuff.

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5 hours ago, Elliott said:

This forum isnt the mainstream left. This forum does conscious politics and does discuss important issues. The unconscious mainstream is lost in culture war while ignoring the major issues. Bernie was an example of a good populist leader who would have won. 

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I just prefer to take the side of the underdog because understanding human nature, when a group becomes too large or has too much power for it's own good, it starts to become oppressive, and that's the modern left. People tired of their censorship, the unchecked migration, the inability of them to want to fight any crime, and they think they can rehabilitate spiral dynamics red and blue people.

Not to say the right can't be oppressive, but they are not the ones in control of the institutions implementing their psyops among the public right now, it's largely the left. Many of their ideas just go totally counter to the laws of nature, natural selection, evolution. I get they are compassionate and think they have the moral high ground, but there's a balance between trying to "save everyone" or have some socialist utopia that would never work, and having a society that can actually prosper, which will largely be capitalistic in nature, despite the flaws in capitalism. 

Leftist logic... we need to "protect democracy" so we need to ban this "far right" political party ... that's what I call cognitive dissonance.   Make no mistake, the "right" would attempt the same thing if they had majority power. It's just human nature. 

https://www.cnn.com/2025/07/06/europe/germany-afd-ban-politics-analysis-intl

Take the whole Texas gerrymandering thing also... democrats are masters at gerrymandering. I say it's about time the republicans use the same tactics the democrats have been using for years. You have to play to win... this "getting along" stuff is something people like to tell the other side to get them to capitulate and hope that it works. 

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7 hours ago, enchanted said:

This forum isnt the mainstream left. This forum does conscious politics and does discuss important issues. The unconscious mainstream is lost in culture war while ignoring the major issues. Bernie was an example of a good populist leader who would have won. 

Point to the war on culture from the left.

https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/

https://youtube.com/@thedavidpakmanshow?si=v9XIqJsbXyTBXN94

https://youtube.com/@meidastouch?si=BvVR-i1V3bzruzgG

https://youtube.com/@theyoungturks?si=M69JBcCJ8vSdZKG-

https://www.msnbc.com/

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